Cyprus-Forum.com

[turkkan]

The fact that the meeting with Clinton had never been set and it was Talat's little way of pompously getting some attention (despite the lie) is too complicated for such an 'esteemed thought provoking journalist' to comprehend.

You do realise that nearly every source be it greek, turkish or english is pretty certain that there was an arranged meeting that was put off after pressure from the greek lobby in america, and only till after your foreign minister meets clinton. The only person talking about talat making the meeting up is you.

[Oracle]

The fact that the meeting with Clinton had never been set and it was Talat's little way of pompously getting some attention (despite the lie) is too complicated for such an 'esteemed thought provoking journalist' to comprehend.

You do realise that nearly every source be it greek, turkish or english is pretty certain that there was an arranged meeting that was put off after pressure from the greek lobby in america, and only till after your foreign minister meets clinton. The only person talking about talat making the meeting up is you.

This was the Official Bayrak announcement of the (putative) meeting ...

President Mehmet Ali Talat has said that the exact date of his visit to the United States will be set by next week the latest.

The US visit has been on the high agenda of the Presidency for some time the President stated.

As part of his contacts in the US, Talat will hold a meeting with the US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington which he said will be on an invitational basis. The "invitation" was NEVER given!

The US visit of President Talat will also include meetings with various political sides based in Washington and representatives of the US Senate.

The President stated that, if the visit starts on the 30th of March, which seems as a high possibility, then it will be possible for him to attend in a conference there to be held on the 31st.

In red are what the article said, and can be clearly read as the meeting NOT actually having been set! In blue is my comment.

Now ... perhaps you can find me one credible source which states the SET meeting.

As I said ... it was just Talat's hype, and he is fortunate Clinton is broad shouldered enough to IGNORE him for using her to further his political machinations!

[utu]

Your confused but thats understandable, after all, look at your source. Cyprus has only one enemy (o-n-l-y o-n-e ) and that is the Turkish occupational forces.

I'm glad to read that you don't regard the Turkish Cypriots as an "enemy of Cyprus". A number of the people on this forum do allude to the Turkish Cypriots as "a knife at the throat of the Greek Cypriot people", which - of course - gives ammunition to the Turkish Cypriot members of the forum.

In regards to the postponement of the meeting between US SECSTATE Clinton and Talat, I don't see why the politicians of RoCy were so negative about such a meeting. If it were in the form of a state visit, I'd have to agree that it would have been unacceptable, but nothing of the kind was offered, and solving the Cyprus Problem needs communication. All that this objection accomplished was to reinforce a perception of intractability on the part of the Christofas Administration.

[Lit]

Your confused but thats understandable, after all, look at your source. Cyprus has only one enemy (o-n-l-y o-n-e ) and that is the Turkish occupational forces.

I'm glad to read that you don't regard the Turkish Cypriots as an "enemy of Cyprus". A number of the people on this forum do allude to the Turkish Cypriots as "a knife at the throat of the Greek Cypriot people", which - of course - gives ammunition to the Turkish Cypriot members of the forum.

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

[YFred]

Your confused but thats understandable, after all, look at your source. Cyprus has only one enemy (o-n-l-y o-n-e ) and that is the Turkish occupational forces.

I'm glad to read that you don't regard the Turkish Cypriots as an "enemy of Cyprus". A number of the people on this forum do allude to the Turkish Cypriots as "a knife at the throat of the Greek Cypriot people", which - of course - gives ammunition to the Turkish Cypriot members of the forum.

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Has it ever occurred to you that if Turkish Army did not intervene and there was no geographical separation, there would be no Turkish Cypriots left in Cyprus. The RoC would have succeeded in its policy of de-Turkifying Cyprus and would have managed a complete ethnic cleansing long before they joined the EU.

[Lit]

Your confused but thats understandable, after all, look at your source. Cyprus has only one enemy (o-n-l-y o-n-e ) and that is the Turkish occupational forces.

I'm glad to read that you don't regard the Turkish Cypriots as an "enemy of Cyprus". A number of the people on this forum do allude to the Turkish Cypriots as "a knife at the throat of the Greek Cypriot people", which - of course - gives ammunition to the Turkish Cypriot members of the forum.

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Has it ever occurred to you that if Turkish Army did not intervene and there was no geographical separation, there would be no Turkish Cypriots left in Cyprus. The RoC would have succeeded in its policy of de-Turkifying Cyprus and would have managed a complete ethnic cleansing long before they joined the EU.

Look, you go into every thread and type the same stuff, brother. Has it ever occurred to you that i do not care for your drivel? Not to be rude or anything but i dont. I can be posting in a thread titled "how to remove a blister from the big toe" and there you are....in the same thread talking about enosis, eoka, 1974. Who likes to repeat themselves in every thread?

[utu]

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Lit, you seem to blame the Turkish Cypriots for the problems on the island. You think that there is any hope of reconciliation, or do you prefer the option of removing them from the island in toto... like others on this forum?

[Lit]

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Lit, you seem to blame the Turkish Cypriots for the problems on the island. You think that there is any hope of reconciliation, or do you prefer the option of removing them from the island in toto... like others on this forum?

Do you blame the Kurds in Turkey for the 40,000 deaths and is there any hope of reconciliation? Are you planning on removing them from Turkey?

You ask me silly questions, i will throw them right back at you.

[utu]

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Lit, you seem to blame the Turkish Cypriots for the problems on the island. You think that there is any hope of reconciliation, or do you prefer the option of removing them from the island in toto... like others on this forum?

Do you blame the Kurds in Turkey for the 40,000 deaths and is there any hope of reconciliation? Are you planning on removing them from Turkey?

You ask me silly questions, i will throw them right back at you.

I'm being quite serious. My thesis is being governed a lot by the opinions expressed by folk on this forum. My question is simple: What do you think should happen to the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island?

[Lit]

No, your mistaken on two fronts. I could care less about the eventual Talat Clinton meeting. I stated that it was inevitable that it would occur simply because direct negotiations have elevated Talat's stature. Although i dont know why your mentioning it in this thread as i didnt mention anything here about Hillary or Talat.

Also, this thing about Turkish Cypriots, i hear that a lot.....from Turks. Mere smoke screen. The Turkish occupational army is the enemy but i will not hesitate to tell you my true feelings about them. I dont believe in political correctness, In person, i am up front and i will tell you exactly what i think. I dont sugar coat things. Had the Turkish Cypriots not supported geographic separation, ethnic cleansing partition, and illegal occupation, along with Turkey, they would be members of the EU along with us. Any more questions?

Lit, you seem to blame the Turkish Cypriots for the problems on the island. You think that there is any hope of reconciliation, or do you prefer the option of removing them from the island in toto... like others on this forum?

Do you blame the Kurds in Turkey for the 40,000 deaths and is there any hope of reconciliation? Are you planning on removing them from Turkey?

You ask me silly questions, i will throw them right back at you.

I'm being quite serious. My thesis is being governed a lot by the opinions expressed by folk on this forum. My question is simple: What do you think should happen to the Turkish Cypriot presence on the island?

Well. i think they should forget about wanting a complex confederation and start negotiating in good faith for a bicommunal bizonal federation. buuuuuurp.