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by **YFred** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:18 am

Oracle wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
YFred wrote:
Oracle wrote:Well you know turkkan ... Turkey has been trying to join the EU for what seems like an infinity ... So, can you blame us if we have gotten fed up trying to think up more phrases for why it will 'never see the light of day', 'will get the boot', 'have door slammed in face', 'kiss EU-butt', etc etc etc!

Gawd I have never known such a handicap (hand-in-cap) begging desperation from anyone, than the embarrassing tactics of the desperate beggar Turks ... ... give it a rest and hold your heads up, under those headscarves

Fancy that!

Obama urges EU to accept Turkey as member .

http://www.todayszaman.com/tz-web/detay ... ink=171542

Very funny Frederick, Bush was urging too...remember?

They haven't sussed the "Good guy" vs "Bad guy" tactics played out here by the US and EU ...

They vill they vill, van day. Even se Germans.

by **turkkan** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 12:49 am

Well you know turkkan ... Turkey has been trying to join the EU for what seems like an infinity ... So, can you blame us if we have gotten fed up trying to think up more phrases for why it will 'never see the light of day', 'will get the boot', 'have door slammed in face', 'kiss EU-butt', etc etc etc!

No way near as long as you have been waiting to get the north of the island back. You dont see me teasing you about that do you? I mean you have been going on about liberation and return of refugees and all sorts of patriotic nonsense that your government has fed you for 35 years now, do we make fun of that? Turkey will never join the EU and it will also never give up north cyprus. That it will not join the EU has NOTHING to do with the ROC having a veto. Absolutely nothing. And that it will not join the EU is possibly one of the worst things that could befall on the ROC in regards to any possible deal it may actually feel at east with. Your hatred for turkey clouds your judgement. There was a time before the turkish army was here when that might actually affect us TC's, now we couldnt give a rats ass what a GC thinks.

by **kurupetos** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:53 am

turkkan wrote:
Well you know turkkan ... Turkey has been trying to join the EU for what seems like an infinity ... So, can you blame us if we have gotten fed up trying to think up more phrases for why it will 'never see the light of day', 'will get the boot', 'have door slammed in face', 'kiss EU-butt', etc etc etc!

No way near as long as you have been waiting to get the north of the island back. You dont see me teasing you about that do you? I mean you have been going on about liberation and return of refugees and all sorts of patriotic nonsense that your government has fed you for 35 years now, do we make fun of that? Turkey will never join the EU and it will also never give up north cyprus. That it will not join the EU has NOTHING to do with the ROC having a veto. Absolutely nothing. And that it will not join the EU is possibly one of the worst things that could befall on the ROC in regards to any possible deal it may actually feel at east with. Your hatred for turkey clouds your judgement. There was a time before the turkish army was here when that might actually affect us TC's, now we couldnt give a rats ass what a GC thinks.

by **Oracle** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:44 am

turkkan wrote:
Well you know turkkan ... Turkey has been trying to join the EU for what seems like an infinity ... So, can you blame us if we have gotten fed up trying to think up more phrases for why it will 'never see the light of day', 'will get the boot', 'have door slammed in face', 'kiss EU-butt', etc etc etc!

No way near as long as you have been waiting to get the north of the island back. You dont see me teasing you about that do you? I mean you have been going on about liberation and return of refugees and all sorts of patriotic nonsense that your government has fed you for 35 years now, do we make fun of that? Turkey will never join the EU and it will also never give up north cyprus. That it will not join the EU has NOTHING to do with the ROC having a veto. Absolutely nothing. And that it will not join the EU is possibly one of the worst things that could befall on the ROC in regards to any possible deal it may actually feel at east with. Your hatred for turkey clouds your judgement. There was a time before the turkish army was here when that might actually affect us TC's, now we couldnt give a rats ass what a GC thinks.

I too believe Turkey will never join the EU for reasons other than a Cypriot veto. The things asked of Turkey are too alien to her ways and manners, hence unachievable except by some miracle. But if you are upset by my "teasing" you, regarding this, then it should not bother you unless you still retain some hope of acceptance. :wink:

That is for you to sort out; and I will not stop hating Turkey for as long us it violates the Rights of the people of my country.

It may have taken 35 years and we have still not liberated our country, but again that is a reflection on the size of the evil that is Turkey, and nothing more. The EU is our numbers equaliser now, and as such, that has only come of late ...

The reason why the knowledge of the unattainability of the EU by Turkey bothers you so, and the Turks even more ... is because you recognise that fact, and slowly see the grip on Cyprus receding, and your hopes for future fortunes disappear, day by day!

In the end, Cyprus will be free, and Turkey would have done "well" if it has managed to hold on to any of the other states she has invaded ....

by **paliometoxo** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 1:09 pm

turkey will never abide by the laws by the eu, they went on tv announcing the rest of the eu should be like them..

they will always ignore human right laws.

by **kurupetos** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:16 pm

paliometoxo wrote:turkey will never abide by the laws by the eu, they went on tv announcing the rest of the eu should be like them..

they will always ignore human right laws.

Not just EU laws. Also UN resolutions, national airspace & territorial waters violations, human rights for minorities, etc...................................... :roll:

by **EPSILON** » Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:26 pm

Oracle wrote:Bitter Turkey finally lifts veto on Danish PM as Nato chiefIan Traynor in Strasbourg

The Observer, Sunday 5 April 2009

Denmark's prime minister was appointed the new Nato chief yesterday following 24 hours of brinkmanship and bitter dispute over religion and liberty that risked turning the western military alliance into the hostage of a clash with Islam.

Anders Fogh Rasmussen was named Nato secretary-general after President Barack Obama intervened in a row between the Dane and President Abdullah Gul of Turkey, which had earlier vetoed the appointment.

As the single big Muslim country within Nato, Turkey had refused to yield on the appointment of Rasmussen because of his defence of free speech during the Danish cartoons crisis three years ago and because Denmark is host to a Kurdish rebel TV station broadcasting to Turkey.

Rasmussen was supported by most leading European states, with the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, his keenest advocate.

The row with Turkey threatened to mar what was planned to be a celebration of Nato's 60th birthday at a summit staged jointly by France and Germany on both sides of the Rhine.

Turkey yielded at the very end after the summit was extended by two hours and heads of state and government met alone to try to strike a deal. A European foreign minister told the Observer that Turkey backed down when it was promised membership of the European Defence Agency, increasing Ankara's clout in the EU's defence affairs.

Despite the final agreement, the dispute meant that the toxic arguments over religious values, blasphemy and liberties that have raged between the western and Islamic worlds since 9/11 have penetrated the inner sanctum of Nato for the first time. Obama and the other 27 national leaders of Nato sought to forge a consensus on the Danish candidate at a dinner in the German spa town of Baden-Baden on Friday night. But Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the Turkish prime minister, refused to budge. Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, then spent hours on the phone to Erdogan yesterday morning without a breakthrough.

In a speech in London on Friday, Erdogan accused Rasmussen - who had just announced that he was quitting Danish politics - of playing host to "terrorists" linked to the PKK Kurdish guerrillas fighting the Turkish state. "The mouthpiece of the terrorist organisation in my country is broadcasting from Denmark. How can someone who did not stop this safeguard peace?", Erdogan declared. "Nato is an organisation whose duties are to ensure peace."

The Turkish leader also complained that Rasmussen had spurned his pleas during the 2006 cartoon crisis to make a gesture to defuse the tensions with the Islamic world. "How can those who made no contribution to peace at that time contribute to peace now?"

Olli Rehn, the top EU official in charge of negotiating Turkey's accession to the union, said Erdogan had blundered and that Ankara's threatened veto threw into greater doubt Turkey's commitment to freedom of expression.