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[insan]

It seems like latest developments put all the nerves of growupgcs on.

[growuptcs]

It seems like latest developments put all the nerves of growupgcs on.

No. Its that you think Obama is your excuse to act even more of a Turk.
Geez

[YFred]

Something is cooking.

Its not cooking VP, its cooked and being prepared to be served.

What do you think it is? will we like it?

I would ask will they like it? There is no doubt that we will like it. Turkey's position in the world has never been stronger. I suspect it also includes exploration rights in the Mediterranean sea.

Does your shitsuit unzip or is it always on? How about when you go swimming?

You have to read into the article. If the amercians are asking for help in the mid east they are not likely to be harsh on Turkey. Its just logic. I am not happy about it, I am just saying how I see it. In the world everything works around American/Russian interests, we don't count. Its been like this for some time, with only a minor change, we now have a 3 way struggle with China joining America and Russia at the top table.

[Kifeas]

President Obama is ready to make a deal with Turkey over Cyprus, in exchange for greater co-operation in the Middle East.

Bloody cheek, what gives Obama the right to decide the future of Cypriots. The same old story - outsiders interfering in Cyprus. Obama should be banging heads together not selling Cyprus down the river.

So what give Hellenes the right to decide the future of Turkish Cypriots? It's been almost 36 years that TCs have been under unjust isolation. It's time for all relevant parties to fix their faults.

It has also been 36 years sine 200,000 Greek Cypriots live as refugees and without the towns, villages and properties you have illegally usurped from them in the occupied part of Cyprus. Your isolation and gradual disappearance as a community from Cyprus will come to an end only once you realise that you cannot and have no right to hold 35% of Cyprus and the properties of 200k GCs, as hostages of your unattainable irredentist dreams.

[YFred]

President Obama is ready to make a deal with Turkey over Cyprus, in exchange for greater co-operation in the Middle East.

Bloody cheek, what gives Obama the right to decide the future of Cypriots. The same old story - outsiders interfering in Cyprus. Obama should be banging heads together not selling Cyprus down the river.

So what give Hellenes the right to decide the future of Turkish Cypriots? It's been almost 36 years that TCs have been under unjust isolation. It's time for all relevant parties to fix their faults.

It has also been 36 years sine 200,000 Greek Cypriots live as refugees and without the towns, villages and properties you have illegally usurped from them in the occupied part of Cyprus. Your isolation and gradual disappearance as a community from Cyprus will come to an end only once you realise that you cannot and have no right to hold 35% of Cyprus and the properties of 200k GCs, as hostages of your unattainable irredentist dreams.

Kifeas, we all want to resolve the Cyprus problem to the satisfaction of most Cypriots, but this all or nothing mentality will lead to nothing.

[eracles]

I know I'm not a moderator and hell, shoot me down in flames, but can we keep this -on topic- without shit-throwing, because there's currently over 4000 topics that end in the same way on this forum.
Let's discuss whether Obama will sell Cyprus to the Turks or not with a cool head without accusations, just looking at the geopolitics - maybe make a prediction and we'll see if it comes true!

My prediction: Thanks Turks for help in Cyprus problem, supports current peace process, removes certain 'isolations' on TCs to scare GCs to accept Turkey's red lines.

[insan]

President Obama is ready to make a deal with Turkey over Cyprus, in exchange for greater co-operation in the Middle East.

Bloody cheek, what gives Obama the right to decide the future of Cypriots. The same old story - outsiders interfering in Cyprus. Obama should be banging heads together not selling Cyprus down the river.

So what give Hellenes the right to decide the future of Turkish Cypriots? It's been almost 36 years that TCs have been under unjust isolation. It's time for all relevant parties to fix their faults.

It has also been 36 years sine 200,000 Greek Cypriots live as refugees and without the towns, villages and properties you have illegally usurped from them in the occupied part of Cyprus. Your isolation and gradual disappearance as a community from Cyprus will come to an end only once you realise that you cannot and have no right to hold 35% of Cyprus and the properties of 200k GCs, as hostages of your unattainable irredentist dreams.

We were always willing to solve the problem both backwards and onwards of 1974; had u ever accepted TC community as a politically equal state partner. It is u and ur alikes that suppose u r holding us as hostages in dream of one day TCs would surrender to ur unfair demands and accept minority status.

[eracles]

nice one insan.....ruining my thread even more there's so many of these threads that are identical 'if you accepted this, if you didn't do that, if ottomans never came here, if greeks weren't evil....yawn.

[Lit]

What do you guys think?

I'll tell you whats up. Its a major upgrade for Turkey. Why? Because the US wants more from Turkey and Turkey is giving it. On issues from Afghanistan to Iraq, You will here all about what they agreed when Obama visits Turkey.

Now why wouldn't president Obama help those who made his fist major trip abroad a successful one? Thats a no brainer. So what does Turkey want in return? Thats also a no brainer.

New thinking is required from our politicians but i aint seeing it. The cold war is over. One side has won, are our politicians aware of it?

The Greek lobby have filed their objections

You cant always request miracles and that lobby isnt powerful as some make it out to be. So dont always run to it. And some in that lobby are disappointed that karamanlis couldnt offer more during his recent Obama meeting.

Not all is lost. Karamanlis has been invited to Washington.
Christofias may have a change of mind with regard to the Partnership for peace program. Oh and the Turks may actually come to their senses and negotiate in good faith. You know because i have been reading some of these TC facebook pages and oh wait, I think i have been reading too much of "The Cypriot's" comments in another thread. Hey, Wishful thinking is sometimes good.

[Kifeas]

President Obama is ready to make a deal with Turkey over Cyprus, in exchange for greater co-operation in the Middle East.

Bloody cheek, what gives Obama the right to decide the future of Cypriots. The same old story - outsiders interfering in Cyprus. Obama should be banging heads together not selling Cyprus down the river.

So what give Hellenes the right to decide the future of Turkish Cypriots? It's been almost 36 years that TCs have been under unjust isolation. It's time for all relevant parties to fix their faults.

It has also been 36 years sine 200,000 Greek Cypriots live as refugees and without the towns, villages and properties you have illegally usurped from them in the occupied part of Cyprus. Your isolation and gradual disappearance as a community from Cyprus will come to an end only once you realise that you cannot and have no right to hold 35% of Cyprus and the properties of 200k GCs, as hostages of your unattainable irredentist dreams.

Kifeas, we all want to resolve the Cyprus problem to the satisfaction of most Cypriots, but this all or nothing mentality will lead to nothing.

The “all or nothing” mentality is exactly what directs your leadership's and your motherland's claims and actions. You want political equality which you translate into numerical equality and a 50:50 power sharing of the federal Republic of Cyprus, and at the same time you want to retain the north as an exclusive Turkish territory with separate near nation-state sovereignty. On top of this, you want Turkey to have the right to invade Cyprus at will, so that it will for ever secure and safeguard your unjust solution aims in the expense of the GCs. You are willing to return only the scrappiest 7% of the territory you illegally took from the GCs, and in exchange you want us to accept that the best 30% of Cyprus and 55% of its coastlines will become a Turkish ownership territory, in the service of Turkey’s megalomaniac geo-strategic interests in the region. You want all the settlers to stay in Cyprus, and at the same time you want 50% power sharing so that one day you will even impose on the GC majority a loyal to Turkey mainland settler as its rotating president in the federal government.