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[utu]

The ends justifies the means.

Simon, I hope you don't mean that. A lot of despots have used that argument. Also a lot of the so-called democratic nations. TPap probably killed the last chance of a reconcilation when he pushed for the rejection of the AP. True, the plan was not ideal, but it was better than the status quo. Not a great legacy for the man, IMHO.

[Get Real!]

Akrivos megale!

That is so Greek!

Cypriots would NEVER use such an expression!

The CF is infested with pushto-kalamarades prodotes!

[Simon]

Rubbish. Papa saved the Cypriot nation by helping us reject yet another disaster. When you have been screwed as much as Cyprus has by the big powers, I absolutely mean it. We are now in the EU without having to accept a racist plan. If Papa had to tell a few white lies to establish that, I couldn't care less. Politics isn't pretty, you should know that by now. But justice was done.

[Get Real!]

Btw, we have TWO Turkish Cypriot PATRIOTS!!!

[utu]

Rubbish. Papa saved the Cypriot nation by helping us reject yet another disaster. When you have been screwed as much as Cyprus has by the big powers, I absolutely mean it. We are now in the EU without having to accept a racist plan. If Papa had to tell a few white lies to establish that, I couldn't care less. Politics isn't pretty, you should know that by now. But justice was done.

Simon. I just don't agree with you on this. Compromises leave both sides unsatisfied. You don't feel like you would gain much. You look at it from what one didn't acheive, but what would you have acheived had the plan been approved: the vast majority of Turkish troops out, a lot of territory in the north gone back to the south, free movement between the states. Sounds better than what things are like now...

[Lit]

Akrivos megale!

That is so Greek!

Cypriots would NEVER use such an expression!

The CF is infested with pushto-kalamarades prodotes!

The "true Cypriot", GR!, is once again telling people who is a real Cypriot in this forum and who is not. Truly pathetic.

[Simon]

Utu wrote:

Compromises leave both sides unsatisfied. You don't feel like you would gain much. You look at it from what one didn't acheive, but what would you have acheived had the plan been approved: the vast majority of Turkish troops out, a lot of territory in the north gone back to the south, free movement between the states. Sounds better than what things are like now...

The majority of TCs were very satisfied, that's why they voted for it. It certainly wasn't their (or the settlers') predisposition for compromise that's for sure. I could list dozens of racist discriminations and other problems in the AP, which would have led to further problems worse than what we have today, but there isn't much point. It would all be lost on you anyway and it has all been said before. Anybody who cannot see that the AP was heavily balanced in the Turks' favour is either blind or biased IMO.

[Lit]

Rubbish. Papa saved the Cypriot nation by helping us reject yet another disaster. When you have been screwed as much as Cyprus has by the big powers, I absolutely mean it. We are now in the EU without having to accept a racist plan. If Papa had to tell a few white lies to establish that, I couldn't care less. Politics isn't pretty, you should know that by now. But justice was done.

Simon. I just don't agree with you on this. Compromises leave both sides unsatisfied. You don't feel like you would gain much. You look at it from what one didn't acheive, but what would you have acheived had the plan been approved: the vast majority of Turkish troops out, a lot of territory in the north gone back to the south, free movement between the states. Sounds better than what things are like now...

You may want to read up on this book utu:

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/annanplan ... lo-res.pdf

You know, for your research and stuff.

[utu]

Rubbish. Papa saved the Cypriot nation by helping us reject yet another disaster. When you have been screwed as much as Cyprus has by the big powers, I absolutely mean it. We are now in the EU without having to accept a racist plan. If Papa had to tell a few white lies to establish that, I couldn't care less. Politics isn't pretty, you should know that by now. But justice was done.

Simon. I just don't agree with you on this. Compromises leave both sides unsatisfied. You don't feel like you would gain much. You look at it from what one didn't acheive, but what would you have acheived had the plan been approved: the vast majority of Turkish troops out, a lot of territory in the north gone back to the south, free movement between the states. Sounds better than what things are like now...

You may want to read up on this book utu:

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/annanplan ... lo-res.pdf

You know, for your research and stuff.

I will. Thank you.

[halil]

Rubbish. Papa saved the Cypriot nation by helping us reject yet another disaster. When you have been screwed as much as Cyprus has by the big powers, I absolutely mean it. We are now in the EU without having to accept a racist plan. If Papa had to tell a few white lies to establish that, I couldn't care less. Politics isn't pretty, you should know that by now. But justice was done.

Simon. I just don't agree with you on this. Compromises leave both sides unsatisfied. You don't feel like you would gain much. You look at it from what one didn't acheive, but what would you have acheived had the plan been approved: the vast majority of Turkish troops out, a lot of territory in the north gone back to the south, free movement between the states. Sounds better than what things are like now...

You may want to read up on this book utu:

http://www.lobbyforcyprus.org/annanplan ... lo-res.pdf

You know, for your research and stuff.

I will. Thank you.

Try to read this report as well UTU !

http://myweb.cytanet.com.cy/cic/

RESULTS OF THE REFERENDA OF 24TH APRIL 2004 by Christofis Economides

(Economist-Historian)