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How much have we changed from last century’s catastrophic mindsets?

I’m a GC who denounces both Greece & Turkey and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
11
34%
I’m a GC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
7
22%
I’m a GC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a TC who denounces both Turkey & Greece and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
2
6%
I’m a TC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
1
3%
I’m a TC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
6
19%
I’m a Greek who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
0
No votes
I’m a Greek who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
1
3%
I’m a Greek against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a Turk who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
1
3%
I’m a Turk who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
2
6%
I’m a Turk against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
1
3%
 
Total votes : 32

Postby Lit » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:36 am

Simon wrote:
Lit wrote:
Greece threatens to veto any enlargement if Cyprus, even divided, is denied membership. The admission of the Greek part alone would, however, provoke a massive crisis with Turkey, a vital strategic ally of the West.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/le ... 19170.html

The west was saying NO!


Thanks Lit. I think combined we have well and truly put the plonker in his place. :lol:


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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:39 am

utu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:People like you and I must always think before we travel… hell, I can’t even go to Greece! :lol:


Judging from some of your comments, GR, I didn't think you'd WANT to go to Greece!

I thought I'd mention a place they'd find friendly to make my point...
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Postby Simon » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:40 am

The Cypriot wrote:
Lit wrote:
Greece threatens to veto any enlargement if Cyprus, even divided, is denied membership. The admission of the Greek part alone would, however, provoke a massive crisis with Turkey, a vital strategic ally of the West.


http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/le ... 19170.html

The west was saying NO!



We should indeed be grateful to Greece for this great service to Cyprus. And also to the then foreign minister of the evil Imperialists, Robin Hood (RIP) who also successfully argued the case, no doubt to our friends on the other side of the pond.


Britain, along with others, only supported the Cypriot accession because they thought we would accept the unfair AP. That is why they felt so cheated when we didn't, largely thanks to Papa amongst others. A triumph for Cypriot and Greek diplomacy perhaps :lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:41 am

Get Real! wrote:
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Simon wrote:Being Greek was never imposed on us, your neo-Cypriot ideology was imposed by foreigners and you have been brainwashed with it. What I have learnt about the Greeks is from my own independent study. So aim your silly presumptions elsewhere. Perhaps you read the Cyprus Mail too much? I consider "half-hearted Greek" to be a derogatory term, so use this label against me, then I will continue calling you a neo-Cypriot. Do your worst with your libel action! :roll: What suggests the extremism is not the "neo" but the "Nazi" or the "Fascist". :roll: :roll: "Neo" just means recent or new. :roll: Where did you say you got your legal advice? I suppose when political commentators called Bush and his friends Neocons they all got sued


Relax Simon, I didn't take legal advice because of what you wrote... I don't suppose either of us can libel each other in an anonymous forum.

And I apologise for calling you a half-hearted Greek.

:shock: Apologize? He's a fucking galamaras pretending to be Cypriot!

Don’t let the clowns fool you my friend because no Cypriot patriot would ever go round with a Greek flag!


I was deliberately prodding a raw nerve and it was unnecessary. Simon describes himself as Greek Cypriot.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:42 am

Simon wrote:
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Simon wrote:Being Greek was never imposed on us, your neo-Cypriot ideology was imposed by foreigners and you have been brainwashed with it. What I have learnt about the Greeks is from my own independent study. So aim your silly presumptions elsewhere. Perhaps you read the Cyprus Mail too much? I consider "half-hearted Greek" to be a derogatory term, so use this label against me, then I will continue calling you a neo-Cypriot. Do your worst with your libel action! :roll: What suggests the extremism is not the "neo" but the "Nazi" or the "Fascist". :roll: :roll: "Neo" just means recent or new. :roll: Where did you say you got your legal advice? I suppose when political commentators called Bush and his friends Neocons they all got sued

Relax Simon, I didn't take legal advice because of what you wrote... I don't suppose either of us can libel each other in an anonymous forum.

And I apologise for calling you a half-hearted Greek.

:shock: Apologize? He's a fucking galamaras pretending to be Cypriot!

Don’t let the clowns fool you my friend because no Cypriot patriot would ever go round with a Greek flag!


I am not pretending to be anything you pseudo-Choirokoitian senile ignoramus. I am completely open about who I am, as are most Cypriots like me of Greek descent. I'll go around with whatever flag I please and I'm not going to let you (especially you) or anybody else tell me otherwise!

Are you denying that you're a galamaras?
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Postby utu » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:43 am

Simon wrote:We should indeed be grateful to Greece for this great service to Cyprus. And also to the then foreign minister of the evil Imperialists, Robin Hood (RIP) who also successfully argued the case, no doubt to our friends on the other side of the pond.


Britain, along with others, only supported the Cypriot accession because they thought we would accept the unfair AP. That is why they felt so cheated when we didn't, largely thanks to Papa amongst others. A triumph for Cypriot and Greek diplomacy perhaps :lol:[/quote]

Simon, TPap made himself look like a liar when he pushed for the rejection of the AP. I wouldn't call that a triumph.
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Postby The Cypriot » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:43 am

Simon wrote: Britain, along with others, only supported the Cypriot accession because they thought we would accept the unfair AP. That is why they felt so cheated when we didn't, largely thanks to Papa amongst others. A triumph for Cypriot and Greek diplomacy perhaps :lol:


Perhaps indeed, Simo :wink:
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Postby Simon » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:45 am

Get Real! wrote:
Simon wrote:I'm talking about the EU refusing to allow Cyprus into the EU without a solution to the Cyprus problem. This at one point was a serious issue. Greece threatened to veto every other accession unless Cyprus was allowed in. Understand the facts before you open your mouth plonker!

Nah!

http://www.un.int/cyprus/mendel.htm

But anyway, fuck the EU accession!

When do you plan to return the Cypriot territory you lost?

That’s what I want to know…



So Greece threatened other nations for the fun of it? Read between the lines! Serious questions were being asked. I didn't lose any Cypriot territory, we did as Cypriots, along with the junta. So the question is, what are we going to do about it. You know my opinion already on other threads, one of which I actually started.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:46 am

utu wrote:Simon, TPap made himself look like a liar when he pushed for the rejection of the AP. I wouldn't call that a triumph.

Bush looked like a liar and was a liar every day of his two terms in office, yet some people in your neck of the woods would swear he's the second coming! :lol:
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Postby Simon » Tue Apr 07, 2009 12:46 am

utu wrote:
Simon wrote:We should indeed be grateful to Greece for this great service to Cyprus. And also to the then foreign minister of the evil Imperialists, Robin Hood (RIP) who also successfully argued the case, no doubt to our friends on the other side of the pond.


Britain, along with others, only supported the Cypriot accession because they thought we would accept the unfair AP. That is why they felt so cheated when we didn't, largely thanks to Papa amongst others. A triumph for Cypriot and Greek diplomacy perhaps :lol:


Simon, TPap made himself look like a liar when he pushed for the rejection of the AP. I wouldn't call that a triumph.[/quote]

The ends justifies the means. :wink:
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