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How much have we changed from last century’s catastrophic mindsets?

I’m a GC who denounces both Greece & Turkey and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
11
34%
I’m a GC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
7
22%
I’m a GC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a TC who denounces both Turkey & Greece and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
2
6%
I’m a TC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
1
3%
I’m a TC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
6
19%
I’m a Greek who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
0
No votes
I’m a Greek who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
1
3%
I’m a Greek against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a Turk who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
1
3%
I’m a Turk who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
2
6%
I’m a Turk against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
1
3%
 
Total votes : 32

Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Never never land is fine by me and other TCs, better than the cuckoo land/mindset your current ideology forces your to live in.


What gives you the right to talk on behalf of other Cypriots in Never-Never Land? You are a minority of one VP, as am I. As are we all. Speak for yourself.

Viewpoint wrote: Im not the one whos worried you are,


I'm not worried , VP. My interests in Cyprus are purely philosophical and ideological. I care for the people because I feel their pain, on both sides. And I know neither side is happy with the status quo. My home is a cold country, under no threat of invasion and exploitation from foreign powers. And it doesn't get much sun, which can be a blessing, 'cos the sun makes some blind.



Viewpoint wrote: as it is you that is promoting it as if its widespread on both sides of the divide although the younger generation do not share anything on a regular basis with those in the GC south.


How gleeful are you of this? 40,000 overseas troops prevent Cypriots from sharing things.


Viewpoint wrote: If you were right we should have some chnage in the last 5 years, in fact the 2 communities are even further apart that they were before the borders opened up. You reall need a reality check on what the TCs majority opinion really is,


Are you propogating real public opinion or what you'd like it to be? I can't imagine what it must be like living somewhere where there was one foreign soldier for every three or four citizens. But I expect I wouldn't feel too comfortable about expressing my real opinions in public.

Viewpoint wrote: you appear to be out of touch and lacking in understanding of what the TCs want.


And you are their self-appointed spokesperson? Why don't you let others speak for themselves. And you speak for yourself.

Viewpoint wrote: Do you live in the TRNC?


I live in a part of London where there are many exiles from both the north and south of the current divide, many of Muslim extraction. They are here in search of a better life than the regime in the north, under military control, can offer them. Your point?

Viewpoint wrote: know many young TCs who prefer the division we have today to being forced into aunion where a GC state will be created run by GCs and where they will be exposed to GC style democracy and constant discrimination.


I know many young Cypriots of Muslim extract who prefer unity we can have tomorrow, where a Cypriot state can be created run by Cypriots in a European style democracy where the rights of each individual will be protected by strict, anti-discriminatory laws. There are many minorities in the UK but the ones most victimised are the ones constantly playing the victim card.



Viewpoint wrote: So you are quite happy to be excluded from all walks of life by a hostile and revenge seeking "majority" whom you have given free range to do as they wish with your future.


Why would they seek revenge? What have you done that would make people want to seek revenge from you?



Viewpoint wrote: I do not want to be a minority in my own country


You're a minority of one, VP. As are we all. Deal with it.

Viewpoint wrote: surrendering my effective say in the running of a united Cyprus allowing GCs the freedom to manipulate and exploit TCs as they wish. I demand safegaurds to guarantee that I have my effective say in my own future and that force GCs to act in accordence with any new agreement they place their signature to.


Safeguards for all citizens will be enshrined in law. Our people have been manipulated and exploited by foreigners for centuries. Cypriots in the north continue to be so. Enough is enough, VP. Stand up for yourself!
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Postby Oracle » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:32 pm

The Cypriot wrote: ... I care for the people because I feel their pain, on both sides. And I know neither side is happy with the status quo. My home is a cold country, under no threat of invasion and exploitation from foreign powers. And it doesn't get much sun, which can be a blessing, 'cos the sun makes some blind.


Gulp! :?
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Postby Lit » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:47 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Never never land is fine by me and other TCs, better than the cuckoo land/mindset your current ideology forces your to live in.



Cuckoo hmm, interesting. Would you say VP that your viewpoint is shared by the majority of TCs in the North? And if so, do they happen to have Facebook accounts?

I got your back "The Cypriot", i know how much you enjoy reading those facebook web pages!
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Postby Lit » Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:54 pm

Oracle wrote:
The Cypriot wrote: ... I care for the people because I feel their pain, on both sides. And I know neither side is happy with the status quo. My home is a cold country, under no threat of invasion and exploitation from foreign powers. And it doesn't get much sun, which can be a blessing, 'cos the sun makes some blind.


Gulp! :?


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Postby bill cobbett » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:09 pm

Lit wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Never never land is fine by me and other TCs, better than the cuckoo land/mindset your current ideology forces your to live in.



Cuckoo hmm, interesting. Would you say VP that your viewpoint is shared by the majority of TCs in the North? And if so, do they happen to have Facebook accounts?

I got your back "The Cypriot", i know how much you enjoy reading those facebook web pages!


Lit - can you give us more out of touch members some info/links to these Facebook pages please.
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:26 pm

Not sure which ones Lit's been looking at but here's a good one, Bill......

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 2257601307

ONE CYPRUS
ONE CYPRIOT NATION
ONE CYPRIOT PEOPLE

with over 1,800 members.... Cypriots of all extractions...
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Postby The Cypriot » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:30 pm

And here's another I'm fond of:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 7013787203

I speak CYPRIOT and I'm proud of it!

with nearly 3,300 members.
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Postby Lit » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:32 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
Lit wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Never never land is fine by me and other TCs, better than the cuckoo land/mindset your current ideology forces your to live in.



Cuckoo hmm, interesting. Would you say VP that your viewpoint is shared by the majority of TCs in the North? And if so, do they happen to have Facebook accounts?

I got your back "The Cypriot", i know how much you enjoy reading those facebook web pages!


Lit - can you give us more out of touch members some info/links to these Facebook pages please.


I was kidding around Bill. :wink: I have no idea about Facebook, thats the Cypriot's department.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:44 pm

There’s a rumor going round the IT industry that Facebook is a CIA worldwide people database.

On top of that, I’ve also noticed that the Facebook website has like a dozen Active-X controls requesting to run upon entry! I know that because Active-X controls are forbidden from running on my main PC without my permission so I end up saying "no" about a dozen times the few times I've been there. (A pain in the arse but safe)

If you MUST join Facebook don’t post any of your personal details if you can avoid it.

http://articles.winferno.com/web-browse ... f-activex/
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Postby miltiades » Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:45 pm

The Cypriot wrote:And here's another I'm fond of:

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/grou ... 7013787203

I speak CYPRIOT and I'm proud of it!

with nearly 3,300 members.

tche yio koumbare !!
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