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[insan]

Hmmm... Can anyone what's the difference between a Cypriot and true-Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, True Greek Cypriot, True Turkish Cypriot, Neo-Cypriot, Ottoman Cypriot, British-Cypriot, Rightist-Cypriot, Leftist-Cypriot, Catholic-Cypriot, Orthodox-Cypriot etc.?

Plz list me the qualifications of a true Cypriot both in theorical means and practical means, plz.

For me:

1- Cypriot shall know to speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

3- Cypriot shall have fairly good knowledge abt the religious faith and practises of at least 2 or more ethnic origins of people of Cyprus.

4- Cypriot shall keep in mind that there is always possibility of disputes among the people of Cyprus who r from various ethnic origins and political stances and shall never despise them with insulting words such as "Gypsies", "Ottoman remnants" etc.

5- Above all other believes; Cypriot shall believe that knowledge is greatest power to confront all types dangers and disputes both arised from inside or outside.


Feel free to add more qualifications to describe Cypriotness. I don't believe there r Cypriots and true Cypriots just like I don't believe there is love besides true love.

[RichardB]

Insan

1- Cypriot shall know speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

insan just for starters the above first 2 points would not really be applicable to anyone say under 45 due to lack of association between the 2 main groups of people on the Island over the last 35 years and due to numbers its highly improbable to be related say from a GC point of view to member of the Maronite or Armenian community due to lack of numers in these 2 communities

Could be a good thread here though IMO maybe you should start it as a seperate topic

Just my two pennarth FWIW

[miltiades]

Hmmm... Can anyone what's the difference between a Cypriot and true-Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, True Greek Cypriot, True Turkish Cypriot, Neo-Cypriot, Ottoman Cypriot, British-Cypriot, Rightist-Cypriot, Leftist-Cypriot, Catholic-Cypriot, Orthodox-Cypriot etc.?

Plz list me the qualifications of a true Cypriot both in theorical means and practical means, plz.

For me:

1- Cypriot shall know to speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

3- Cypriot shall have fairly good knowledge abt the religious faith and practises of at least 2 or more ethnic origins of people of Cyprus.

4- Cypriot shall keep in mind that there is always possibility of disputes among the people of Cyprus who r from various ethnic origins and political stances and shall never despise them with insulting words such as "Gypsies", "Ottoman remnants" etc.

5- Above all other believes; Cypriot shall believe that knowledge is greatest power to confront all types dangers and disputes both arised from inside or outside.


Feel free to add more qualifications to describe Cypriotness. I don't believe there r Cypriots and true Cypriots just like I don't believe there is love besides true love.

The answer Insan is that a Cypriot whether G/C , T/C , Armenian , British Cypriot or other must give allegiance to the nation of Cyprus and proudly stick two fingers up to the cancer afflicting our island , Turkey and Greece .
LONG LIVE CYPRUS TO HELL WITH THE BLOODY FOREIGN SHIT THAT POISONS OUR PEOPLE.

[kurupetos]

Hmmm... Can anyone what's the difference between a Cypriot and true-Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, True Greek Cypriot, True Turkish Cypriot, Neo-Cypriot, Ottoman Cypriot, British-Cypriot, Rightist-Cypriot, Leftist-Cypriot, Catholic-Cypriot, Orthodox-Cypriot etc.?

Plz list me the qualifications of a true Cypriot both in theorical means and practical means, plz.

For me:

1- Cypriot shall know to speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

3- Cypriot shall have fairly good knowledge abt the religious faith and practises of at least 2 or more ethnic origins of people of Cyprus.

4- Cypriot shall keep in mind that there is always possibility of disputes among the people of Cyprus who r from various ethnic origins and political stances and shall never despise them with insulting words such as "Gypsies", "Ottoman remnants" etc.

5- Above all other believes; Cypriot shall believe that knowledge is greatest power to confront all types dangers and disputes both arised from inside or outside.


Feel free to add more qualifications to describe Cypriotness. I don't believe there r Cypriots and true Cypriots just like I don't believe there is love besides true love.

Can I delete 1,2,3,4,5? I agree with the rest!

[bill cobbett]

Hmmm... Can anyone what's the difference between a Cypriot and true-Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, True Greek Cypriot, True Turkish Cypriot, Neo-Cypriot, Ottoman Cypriot, British-Cypriot, Rightist-Cypriot, Leftist-Cypriot, Catholic-Cypriot, Orthodox-Cypriot etc.?

Plz list me the qualifications of a true Cypriot both in theorical means and practical means, plz.

For me:

1- Cypriot shall know to speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

3- Cypriot shall have fairly good knowledge abt the religious faith and practises of at least 2 or more ethnic origins of people of Cyprus.

4- Cypriot shall keep in mind that there is always possibility of disputes among the people of Cyprus who r from various ethnic origins and political stances and shall never despise them with insulting words such as "Gypsies", "Ottoman remnants" etc.

5- Above all other believes; Cypriot shall believe that knowledge is greatest power to confront all types dangers and disputes both arised from inside or outside.


Feel free to add more qualifications to describe Cypriotness. I don't believe there r Cypriots and true Cypriots just like I don't believe there is love besides true love.

The answer Insan is that a Cypriot whether G/C , T/C , Armenian , British Cypriot or other must give allegiance to the nation of Cyprus and proudly stick two fingers up to the cancer afflicting our island , Turkey and Greece .
LONG LIVE CYPRUS TO HELL WITH THE BLOODY FOREIGN SHIT THAT POISONS OUR PEOPLE.

Welcome back RB and Babbou.

[insan]

Hmmm... Can anyone what's the difference between a Cypriot and true-Cypriot, Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot, True Greek Cypriot, True Turkish Cypriot, Neo-Cypriot, Ottoman Cypriot, British-Cypriot, Rightist-Cypriot, Leftist-Cypriot, Catholic-Cypriot, Orthodox-Cypriot etc.?

Plz list me the qualifications of a true Cypriot both in theorical means and practical means, plz.

For me:

1- Cypriot shall know to speak and write at least 2 or more languages of people of Cyprus.

2- Cypriot shall have at least 1 relative in his/her family from other ethnic group of Cyprus people.

3- Cypriot shall have fairly good knowledge abt the religious faith and practises of at least 2 or more ethnic origins of people of Cyprus.

4- Cypriot shall keep in mind that there is always possibility of disputes among the people of Cyprus who r from various ethnic origins and political stances and shall never despise them with insulting words such as "Gypsies", "Ottoman remnants" etc.

5- Above all other believes; Cypriot shall believe that knowledge is greatest power to confront all types dangers and disputes both arised from inside or outside.


Feel free to add more qualifications to describe Cypriotness. I don't believe there r Cypriots and true Cypriots just like I don't believe there is love besides true love.

The answer Insan is that a Cypriot whether G/C , T/C , Armenian , British Cypriot or other must give allegiance to the nation of Cyprus and proudly stick two fingers up to the cancer afflicting our island , Turkey and Greece .
LONG LIVE CYPRUS TO HELL WITH THE BLOODY FOREIGN SHIT THAT POISONS OUR PEOPLE.

Do u consider the US among the "bloody foreign shit that poisons our people"?

[The Cypriot]

You are living in wonderland the 2 main communities have been divided for 35 years and have no inclinaiton or demand to live and work together as you put it. The "Cypriot" people dont exists and any promotion of this underdeveloped notion will only be seen as camaflouge to allow GCs to use their numerical advantage to take control of the whole of Cyprus and dominate reducing TCs to a minority in their own country.

Viewpoint, I've yet to lock horns with you before but welcome the opportunity to do so now. I may be living in wonderland but your thinking means you will forever be living in Never-Never Land.

Why are you so worried about the concept of this "underdeveloped notion" of a "Cypriot" people? Are you concerned that if the people of the island did start demanding justice and freedom for all Cypriots - and did so with one voice, Turkey's ill-gotten gains would be seriously threatened? Because they could no longer hoodwink Cypriots living in the north into believing the Cyprus issue was simply a Greek/Turk thing, which meant Turkey had to have a slice to protect their co-religionists?

You see, Pirati? It is a proponent of Turkish interests in Cyprus who claims the concept of "Cypriotness" doesn't exist. So it isn't true what you said, that by propogating this idea we fall into Turkey's trap. Quite the opposite it seems!

The "underdeveloped notion" you speak of Viewpoint, is being developed by Cypriots with many and varied backgrounds, mainly young people, students, and certainly including those now living in the north and/or originally of Muslim extraction. So your contention that it's a "GC" trap is entirely without foundation.

How can it be both a Greek and a Turkish trap? It's neither, it's a Cypriot trap!

As for numerical advantage, the concept of majority and minority ceases to be an issue if people were to think, act and speak as Cypriots. And isn't that what you want, Viewpoint? Not to be a minority?

If Viewpoint is so dead against the idea, I really do believe we're on to something, guys.

[Viewpoint]

Well said, kurupetos! In my view (regardless of how we may feel about ourselves inside) the only way to secure justice for Cyprus is for its long-suffering people to work together - across the artificial dividing line imposed on us by foreigners - and demand it with one voice.

Human rights are indivisible, there can be no hierarchy of fundamental freedoms and taking sides has achieved and will continue to achieve nothing. There can only be one side for Cyprus: the Cypriot side. It's so obvious even a proud donkey like me, born in captivity and living in exile in the land of the evil Imperialists, has managed to figure it out.

You are living in wonderland the 2 main communities have been divided for 35 years and have no inclinaiton or demand to live and work together as you put it. The "Cypriot" people dont exists and any promotion of this underdeveloped notion will only be seen as camaflouge to allow GCs to use their numerical advantage to take control of the whole of Cyprus and dominate reducing TCs to a minority in their own country.

Get a life mate/matess.

Tell me where I am wrong?

[Viewpoint]

The Cypriot

Viewpoint, I've yet to lock horns with you before but welcome the opportunity to do so now. I may be living in wonderland but your thinking means you will forever be living in Never-Never Land.

Never never land is fine by me and other TCs, better than the cuckoo land/mindset your current ideology forces your to live in.

Why are you so worried about the concept of this "underdeveloped notion" of a "Cypriot" people? Are you concerned that if the people of the island did start demanding justice and freedom for all Cypriots - and did so with one voice, Turkey's ill-gotten gains would be seriously threatened? Because they could no longer hoodwink Cypriots living in the north into believing the Cyprus issue was simply a Greek/Turk thing, which meant Turkey had to have a slice to protect their co-religionists?

Im not the one whos worried you are, as it is you that is promoting it as if its widespread on both sides of the divide although the younger generation do not share anything on a regular basis with those in the GC south. If you were right we should have some chnage in the last 5 years, in fact the 2 communities are even further apart that they were before the borders opened up. You reall need a reality check on what the TCs majority opinion really is, you appear to be out of touch and lacking in understanding of what the TCs want.
Do you live in the TRNC?

The "underdeveloped notion" you speak of Viewpoint, is being developed by Cypriots with many and varied backgrounds, mainly young people, students, and certainly including those now living in the north and/or originally of Muslim extraction. So your contention that it's a "GC" trap is entirely without foundation.

Where, who and how many?? I know many young TCs who prefer the division we have today to being forced into aunion where a GC state will be created run by GCs and where they will be exposed to GC style democracy and constant discrimination.

As for numerical advantage, the concept of majority and minority ceases to be an issue if people were to think, act and speak as Cypriots. And isn't that what you want, Viewpoint? Not to be a minority?

So you are quite happy to be excluded from all walks of life by a hostile and revenge seeking "majority" whom you have given free range to do as they wish with your future.

If Viewpoint is so dead against the idea, I really do believe we're on to something, guys.

I do not want to be a minority in my own country surrendering my effective say in the running of a united Cyprus allowing GCs the freedom to manipulate and exploit TCs as they wish. I demand safegaurds to guarantee that I have my effective say in my own future and that force GCs to act in accordence with any new agreement they place their signature to.

[bill cobbett]

Well said, kurupetos! In my view (regardless of how we may feel about ourselves inside) the only way to secure justice for Cyprus is for its long-suffering people to work together - across the artificial dividing line imposed on us by foreigners - and demand it with one voice.

Human rights are indivisible, there can be no hierarchy of fundamental freedoms and taking sides has achieved and will continue to achieve nothing. There can only be one side for Cyprus: the Cypriot side. It's so obvious even a proud donkey like me, born in captivity and living in exile in the land of the evil Imperialists, has managed to figure it out.

You are living in wonderland the 2 main communities have been divided for 35 years and have no inclinaiton or demand to live and work together as you put it. The "Cypriot" people dont exists and any promotion of this underdeveloped notion will only be seen as camaflouge to allow GCs to use their numerical advantage to take control of the whole of Cyprus and dominate reducing TCs to a minority in their own country.

Get a life mate/matess.

Tell me where I am wrong?

Well, I would start but suggesting you might care to look at a calendar.

You'll find it's 2009 and not 1963.

The world's moved on mate but you, I fear, are determined to remain in a dark place in some darker past.