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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

How much have we changed from last century’s catastrophic mindsets?

I’m a GC who denounces both Greece & Turkey and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
11
34%
I’m a GC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
7
22%
I’m a GC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a TC who denounces both Turkey & Greece and supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
2
6%
I’m a TC who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
1
3%
I’m a TC against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
6
19%
I’m a Greek who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
0
No votes
I’m a Greek who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Greek!
1
3%
I’m a Greek against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Greek” and “Turkish” sections.
0
No votes
I’m a Turk who supports the sovereignty of Cyprus.
1
3%
I’m a Turk who insists that the whole of Cyprus is Turkish!
2
6%
I’m a Turk against the sovereignty of Cyprus and in favor of “Turkish” and “Greek” sections.
1
3%
 
Total votes : 32

Postby Lit » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:41 pm

insan wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I don't read junk from a FYROM forum.

Who is going to break the news to the fool that most were Greek authors? :?


:cry:


You havent a clue.

These books are written by FYROM Slavs like Gandeto (birth name Grezlovski) photo below:

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... oksxs8.jpg

Sadly it's people like Risto Stefov (a.k.a Christos Stefou), Gandeto, Donski, Ilyev, Tentov, Bosevski and others that propagate a false ideology that is totally flawed historically. Check out the American Chronicle articles that completely destroyed the silly irredentist arguments made by the above mentioned FYROM authors.

http://themacedonianquestion.blogspot.c ... yroms.html

BTW check out the museum link on that sight. Maybe it will remind you of the embarrassment you suffered in another thread. You recall that?


I've just checked some of the articles and seen how Greek propaganda over Macedonia was destroyed by Macedonian scholars.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/search?q=macedonia


LOL

Scholars? More like a Canadian electrician.

And you may want to check out that link of yours and read some of those articles that arent authored by Risto and Gendeto.

Or click on this link:

http://themacedonianquestion.blogspot.c ... yroms.html
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Postby insan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:44 pm

Paphiti, where in that document mentions invasion of Turkey?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:45 pm

Lit wrote:
insan wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:I don't read junk from a FYROM forum.

Who is going to break the news to the fool that most were Greek authors? :?


:cry:


You havent a clue.

These books are written by FYROM Slavs like Gandeto (birth name Grezlovski) photo below:

http://img98.imageshack.us/my.php?image ... oksxs8.jpg

Sadly it's people like Risto Stefov (a.k.a Christos Stefou), Gandeto, Donski, Ilyev, Tentov, Bosevski and others that propagate a false ideology that is totally flawed historically. Check out the American Chronicle articles that completely destroyed the silly irredentist arguments made by the above mentioned FYROM authors.

http://themacedonianquestion.blogspot.c ... yroms.html

BTW check out the museum link on that sight. Maybe it will remind you of the embarrassment you suffered in another thread. You recall that?


I've just checked some of the articles and seen how Greek propaganda over Macedonia was destroyed by Macedonian scholars.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/search?q=macedonia


LOL

Scholars? More like a Canadian electrician.

And you may want to check out that link of yours and read some of those articles that arent authored by Risto and Gendeto.

Or click on this link:

http://themacedonianquestion.blogspot.c ... yroms.html


Good work Lit.

This really does rubbish all of GR!s and Insan's links.
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:47 pm

Paphitis wrote:
growuptcs wrote:Anyone want to borrow my Cypriometer?


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

GR! will want to borrow it.

He is always trying to prove his Cypriotness.


Especially if it is rear end activated!
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Postby CopperLine » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:54 pm

101 Polling for Beginners : The total set of pollsters must be recorded for the validity and value of a result to identified.

Get Real, by wholly removing the record of 'none of the above' automatically invalidates the poll because you now don't know the total set of pollsters.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:57 pm

insan wrote:Paphiti, where in that document mentions invasion of Turkey?


UN RESOLUTION 360

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolutions 353 (1974) of 20 July, 354 (1974) of 23 July, 355 (1974) of 1 August, 357 (1974) of 14 August and 358 (1974) of 15 August 1974,

Noting that all States have declared their respect for the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus,

Gravely concerned at the deterioration of the situation in Cyprus, resulting from the further military operations, which constituted a most serious threat to peace and security in the East Mediterranean area,

1. Records its formal disapproval of the unilateral military actions undertaken against the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Urges the parties to comply with all the provisions of previous resolutions of the Security Council, including those concerning the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements;

3. Urges the parties to resume without delay, in an atmosphere of constructive co-operation, the negotiations called for in resolution 353 (1974), whose outcome should not be impeded or prejudged by the acquisition of advantages resulting from military operations;

4. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council, as necessary, with a view to the possible adoption of further measures designed to promote the restoration of peaceful conditions;

5. Decides to remain seized of the question permanently and to meet at any time to consider measures which may be required in the light of the developing situation.

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Don't be so daft Insan!

Read between the lines.. :roll:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 05, 2009 6:59 pm

CopperLine wrote:101 Polling for Beginners : The total set of pollsters must be recorded for the validity and value of a result to identified.

Get Real, by wholly removing the record of 'none of the above' automatically invalidates the poll because you now don't know the total set of pollsters.


I totally agree Copper.

If there was a "none of the above" selection, then I would then have been able to vote.
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Postby insan » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:13 pm

Paphitis wrote:
insan wrote:Paphiti, where in that document mentions invasion of Turkey?


UN RESOLUTION 360

The Security Council,

Recalling its resolutions 353 (1974) of 20 July, 354 (1974) of 23 July, 355 (1974) of 1 August, 357 (1974) of 14 August and 358 (1974) of 15 August 1974,

Noting that all States have declared their respect for the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of the Republic of Cyprus,

Gravely concerned at the deterioration of the situation in Cyprus, resulting from the further military operations, which constituted a most serious threat to peace and security in the East Mediterranean area,

1. Records its formal disapproval of the unilateral military actions undertaken against the Republic of Cyprus;

2. Urges the parties to comply with all the provisions of previous resolutions of the Security Council, including those concerning the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements;

3. Urges the parties to resume without delay, in an atmosphere of constructive co-operation, the negotiations called for in resolution 353 (1974), whose outcome should not be impeded or prejudged by the acquisition of advantages resulting from military operations;

4. Requests the Secretary-General to report to the Council, as necessary, with a view to the possible adoption of further measures designed to promote the restoration of peaceful conditions;

5. Decides to remain seized of the question permanently and to meet at any time to consider measures which may be required in the light of the developing situation.

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Don't be so daft Insan!

Read between the lines.. :roll:


I can read between the lines, Paphiti. It disapproves unilatteral military actions of all concerned parties; including Greece and EOKA-B of course. Don't forget that first unilateral military action came from a Greece backed coup, against so-called RoC. Turkey came with a counter-military action in order to restore the constitutional order of the so-called RoC but while military actions of irregulars of EOKA-B was going on and while the so-called, newly installed representatives of Greece and GCs didn't know how to act under threats of irregulars of EOKA-B; there was nothing much for TCs and Turkey to do other than what they had done.
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Postby growuptcs » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:32 pm

insan, you would sound like you be an animal activist that would defend dinosaur rights if they were alive today.
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Postby The Cypriot » Sun Apr 05, 2009 7:46 pm

Simon wrote: Are you a Maronite Cypriot, or one of the other minorities? I'm only asking because your posts seem heavily focused towards the minorities.


No, Simo. I am a Cypriot. No prefix required. And I am a minority of one. As we all are.



Simon wrote: Agreed, but if you tried to tell an adult that his mother is not his mother, then he would still defend her.


Cyprus paid the ultimate sacrifice so that democracy could be restored in Greece. I think we Cypriots have done quite enough for her.



Simon wrote: As far as I'm aware, nobody has denied the uniqueness of Cyprus with all its minorities and influences. But the culture is predominantly Greek, denying this is living in denial.


We're very close to agreeing.



Simon wrote: Instead we must be open and honest about our differences, show that they are not important enough to divide us, and we are mature enough to live together as Cypriots, sharing one island.


Well said. Open and honest abour our differences, and also elevate and celebrate our commonalities.



Simon wrote: I agree, but they identify themselves as Turkish Cypriots today. I don't think they would be too impressed if you denied them their right to identify themselves as they pleased.


There was no such thing as the Turkish nation when the Ottomans invaded Cyprus just as there was no such thing as the Greek nation when the Arcadians colonised Cyprus, followed by all the others. It is an exercise in semantics. Some of them and some of us, identify with these modern nations, after the event. I'm pointing this out in the hope that some will see that the prefixes differentiating Cypriots of Sunni Muslim and orthodox Christian extraction are actually misnomers.
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