Correction: I,am gonna kill the guy..but I am thinking my costume / expensive cars/expensive life style - you know i am a politician (not me they).
alexISS wrote:
After your last attempt to attack Hellenism you have been reduced to a class F debater who has actually lost the will to provide arguments and instead posts stupid one-liners. People told you it was a bad idea but you wouldn't listen, now look at you...
denizaksulu wrote:On one side its a Greek victory, on the other its a Turkish one. Call it a draw and move on.
I wonder what Matsakis was on about in his memoirs? On the other hand, who cares.
Get Real! wrote:alexISS wrote:
After your last attempt to attack Hellenism you have been reduced to a class F debater who has actually lost the will to provide arguments and instead posts stupid one-liners. People told you it was a bad idea but you wouldn't listen, now look at you...
You will confront REALITY whether you like it or not courtesy of unkie GR.
Paphitis wrote:Kikapu wrote:Paphitis,
Reading the above terms of events as to what happened to the "Kardak Team", is as coincidental as the deaths of Nicholas II of Russia and his family in 1918.!!!
Kiks,
I remember these events quite well.
When the Hellenic Navy AB-212 went down, there was massive speculation that the "Kardak Team" had shot it down. Some time afterwards, photos also appeared on the internet showing bullet holes in the chopper's fuselage. Greek Admiral Limberis was the sacrificial lamb in the Simitis Government's witch hunt of the nations leading senior officers.
The same thing happened in Turkey when the Cougar went down. The internet was full of Turkish media articles blaming the Greeks for somehow shooting the helicopter down as a reprisal to the IMIA events. Major Zeki Zen was sent to Georgia as punishment for the loss of Turkey's finest.
Both nations Defence Ministries kept insisting that both accidents were as a result of Mechanical Failure / Pilot Error. What amazes me is how all these Greek and Turkish Media reports have miraculously disappeared. It just seems as though both countries have successfully swept these events under the carpet, probably also as a result of US/NATO coercion so as to diffuse any possibility of Greco/Turkish escalations in the Aegean. Things just don't add up.
And on top of it all, the 2 surviving "Kardak Team" Seals died in a car accident and years later the decorated Major Zeki Zen is mysteriously murdered. The murderers were never caught.
Paphitis wrote:The Greek Military and Secret Sevice Victory at Imia!
Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:The Greek Military and Secret Sevice Victory at Imia!
Despite all the years that have gone by some jokes still hold up well!
Paphitis wrote:Get Real! wrote:Paphitis wrote:The Greek Military and Secret Sevice Victory at Imia!
Despite all the years that have gone by some jokes still hold up well!
The joke as far as I''m concerned seems to be your handling of the cyprus Issue, so what do you expect Greece to do for us when we don't even know how to help ourselves...
You can lead a donkey to a water well, but you can't force a stubborn donkey to drink...
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