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[YFred]

i think turkey would like nothing more then to keep cyprus devided forever

It suits the British, too.

And the yanks, the bastard yanks, don't forget them.

BUT DEFINITELY NOT THE CYPRIOTS (GCs OR TCs)!

How many times do I have to say it. Its like a play. The yanks and the Brits wrote it, the leading parts were given to the TC and GC with other parts going to the Turks and Hellenes. The only problem was that the GCs did not see the last page before the play started.

[bill cobbett]

So total control of a legalised northern state, and through it a large degree of interference in the Free Areas and in the central government and a "guaranteeship" to intervene at will.

Bleeding joke.

[boomerang]

Personally I think not...

They never talked about a 2 state solution...Independant that is...

They always talked about a 2 state confederation...

The way I look at it, if they wanted a 2 state indepandant, read 2 countries, solution they woukd have been discussing it long ago and they would have been happy with 20% of Cyprus...or any percentage figure...

They officially talked about it in 1965. They insuniated it at every occasion(e.g; declaration of TRNC), following a frustration stemed from Hellenic ruling class; e.g majority rule insistence, PKK-Hellene coloboration, anti-Turkish stance of diaspora Hellenes, Osmosis policy of Hellens via EU.

They mostly talk abt confederation because they consider confederation more feasible when taken into account that most of the Hellenes r against 2 seperate states. Moreover, globalization requires Hellenes and Turks to reconcile, colloborate in the interests of western alliance. 2 seperate states might cause new problems between Hellenes and Turks and negatively affect the relations in western alliance.

As for the percentage of land we would demand in case of an agreed partition; I guess it would be no less than 25%-27%.

wants and expectations from 42 years ago are obsolete today...in case you didn't know there is no more a cold war...Policies change...

Todays agenda is for a complete control as per Anan plan...

Percentages in land are irrelevant...why not have your cake and eat, huh?

[turkkan]

Turkey getting weaker and EU getting stronger, most likely ..... and a shift in power etc.

You make it out to be an EU vs Turkey fight, when it is anything but that. How is turkey getting weaker btw? Its army is restructuring itself, it has developed a great defence industry that will soon cater for 50% of turkeys millitary needs and is getting contracts worldwide, in the next few years she will have one of the most modern armies in the region bar israel, its economic predictions for the next ten years are great and its middle class is growing. Her future looks anything but bleak.

[insan]

Complete control of Cyprus r in the hands of bosses of globalization for the interests of future global world. As long as local administrators of Cyprus keep pace with the globalization policies of the big bosses; they will have a say on globalization policies. As long as internal affair policies don't contradict with the globalization policies all will depend local administrators of Cyprus, namely TCs and GCs.

[Lit]

So total control of a legalised northern state, and through it a large degree of interference in the Free Areas and in the central government and a "guaranteeship" to intervene at will.

Bleeding joke.

Has anyone read what the Turkish generals state? Turkey has always stated that it needs to protect its southern flank. They want the demise Cyprus as it exists today because they see it has successfully rose from the ashes. With the Turks, its a security issue. With any future agreement, the Turks request that the RoC:

1) Demilitarize.
2) Disband the National guard.
3) They want expanded intervention rights through ALL of Cyprus.
4) They want the exclusion of Cyprus from the common European defense policy.

Having the "TRNC" breaking away at a future date is just icing on the cake. Besides having the option of breaking away...they would also like to share in all of the RoC's natural resources.

[kurupetos]

So total control of a legalised northern state, and through it a large degree of interference in the Free Areas and in the central government and a "guaranteeship" to intervene at will.

Bleeding joke.

B.C, We will never accept this shite; rest assure on that.

The Turks come on the negotiation table aggressively, expecting that we will give them more than they already have stolen. They expect that by giving back 7% of the land, we will accept any of their demands. How many GCs would accept such a solution plan and most importantly WHY?

[kurupetos]

i think turkey would like nothing more then to keep cyprus devided forever

It suits the British, too.

And the yanks, the bastard yanks, don't forget them.

BUT DEFINITELY NOT THE CYPRIOTS (GCs OR TCs)!

How many times do I have to say it. Its like a play. The yanks and the Brits wrote it, the leading parts were given to the TC and GC with other parts going to the Turks and Hellenes. The only problem was that the GCs did not see the last page before the play started.

The last page will be written by the GCs, freddie.

[T_C]

And it will be co-written by the TCs...

[turkkan]

And it will be directed by turkey