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If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then...

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If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then why is 37% of her territory still enslaved by the Turks 35 years on?

Greece obviously does NOT consider Cyprus as Greek!
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Greece DOES consider Cyprus as Greek, but is afraid of Turkey!
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Greece is FULL OF SHIT wasting Cyprus’ time as always…
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Greece has this mythological concept of “borderless Hellenism” so it’s ok!
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Greece sees Cyprus as a land of “lesser Greeks” having only limited “Hellenic” rights!
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Re: If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then...

Postby Get Real! » Thu Apr 02, 2009 5:28 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:What serious problem?

Why would I want to distract the public from the spectacle of you making a real big fool of yourself? :lol:

Keep going GatTourri!

This serious problem:

If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then why is 37% of her territory still enslaved by the Turks 35 years on?


Because your fucking politicians are incompetent.

This would never happen to any other country except for Cyprus and that is saying something...

And are these incompetent politicians you mention Greeks???
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Re: If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then...

Postby alexISS » Thu Apr 02, 2009 6:49 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Paphitis wrote:What serious problem?

Why would I want to distract the public from the spectacle of you making a real big fool of yourself? :lol:

Keep going GatTourri!

This serious problem:

If Cyprus is a “Greek” island then why is 37% of her territory still enslaved by the Turks 35 years on?


Because your fucking politicians are incompetent.

This would never happen to any other country except for Cyprus and that is saying something...

And are these incompetent politicians you mention Greeks???

Well Tassos Papadopoulos, your idol, said he was Greek. That's at least one Greek you admire
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:09 pm

Did Greece intervene and free Crete, or the dodecanese. There is no collusion among Greeks we all know that. Compare the posts of the Turks and compare the posts of the Greeks on this forum. The turks have no dissenters whatsoever, where among the Greeks you have constant debate among ourselves. Does anyone believe that Eoka was formed with the blessing of Greece, no. When papadopoulos came out and said that there will be oil drilling off the coast of cyprus did Greece know about it before hand? no. When the Greek General in Thrace was ordered to fire towards the Turks in 74, his reply "I would rather fire towards Athens". The Greek culture is created to form fierce individualism.
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:22 pm

WC, what do you mean there is no dissent, of course we disagree at times. However that Greek general should be congratulated, he saved a lot of Greek and Turkish lives as well as a fair part of Greece itself.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:24 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:Did Greece intervene and free Crete, or the dodecanese. There is no collusion among Greeks we all know that. Compare the posts of the Turks and compare the posts of the Greeks on this forum. The turks have no dissenters whatsoever, where among the Greeks you have constant debate among ourselves. Does anyone believe that Eoka was formed with the blessing of Greece, no. When papadopoulos came out and said that there will be oil drilling off the coast of cyprus did Greece know about it before hand? no. When the Greek General in Thrace was ordered to fire towards the Turks in 74, his reply "I would rather fire towards Athens". The Greek culture is created to form fierce individualism.


Among those indivuduals there r interest groups. Individuals in one interest group share the same interests and cooperates for same aims... All Neo-Fascist of Greece were behind of Grivas and EOKA. Greeks in Greece must be too stupid not to have any interest on Cyprus while US, UK, EU, Turkey, Russia have various type of interests on Cyprus.
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Postby Simon » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:24 pm

I think that Greece would have gone to war with Turkey if the government had been stable at the time. But Greece was in chaos. A Greek General had orders to start shooting in Thrace, plans were prepared for Phantom Jets to attack Turkish troops and Greek Frigates were ordered to the area. The problem was the left hand did not know what the right was doing, there was huge confusion within the junta and the Generals did not listen to their instructions.

Indeed, I started a thread related to this issue.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... highlight=
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:47 pm

YFred wrote:WC, what do you mean there is no dissent, of course we disagree at times. However that Greek general should be congratulated, he saved a lot of Greek and Turkish lives as well as a fair part of Greece itself.


With the firepower in favour of Greece at that time you would have been speaking Greek in downtown Constantinople now. The only way an invasion of Cyprus could have succeeded with Turkeys jalopy army was with a deal with the colonel's in Athens.
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:12 pm

DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:WC, what do you mean there is no dissent, of course we disagree at times. However that Greek general should be congratulated, he saved a lot of Greek and Turkish lives as well as a fair part of Greece itself.


With the firepower in favour of Greece at that time you would have been speaking Greek in downtown Constantinople now. The only way an invasion of Cyprus could have succeeded with Turkeys jalopy army was with a deal with the colonel's in Athens.

So please tell us DT, why did this General refuse to start the war against Turkey and what does exactly "I would rather fire towards Athens" mean please?

For an educated man you are incredibly naive DT.
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:15 pm

YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:WC, what do you mean there is no dissent, of course we disagree at times. However that Greek general should be congratulated, he saved a lot of Greek and Turkish lives as well as a fair part of Greece itself.


With the firepower in favour of Greece at that time you would have been speaking Greek in downtown Constantinople now. The only way an invasion of Cyprus could have succeeded with Turkeys jalopy army was with a deal with the colonel's in Athens.

So please tell us DT, why did this General refuse to start the war against Turkey and what does exactly "I would rather fire towards Athens" mean please?

For an educated man you are incredibly naive DT.


We've held this discusson before and proven beyond doubt the miserable state the Turkish army was in and the fact that Greek firepower was superior.

What happened was a double crossing by the Turkish generals to the Greek idiots colonel's running Greece at the time and a complete state of panic during the transition from a dictatorship to a democracy.

It was a fluke, a lucky shot, the stars were alligned and your bunglng savages (when they weren't sinking themselves) made it onto the island.
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:24 pm

DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
YFred wrote:WC, what do you mean there is no dissent, of course we disagree at times. However that Greek general should be congratulated, he saved a lot of Greek and Turkish lives as well as a fair part of Greece itself.


With the firepower in favour of Greece at that time you would have been speaking Greek in downtown Constantinople now. The only way an invasion of Cyprus could have succeeded with Turkeys jalopy army was with a deal with the colonel's in Athens.

So please tell us DT, why did this General refuse to start the war against Turkey and what does exactly "I would rather fire towards Athens" mean please?

For an educated man you are incredibly naive DT.


We've held this discusson before and proven beyond doubt the miserable state the Turkish army was in and the fact that Greek firepower was superior.

What happened was a double crossing by the Turkish generals to the Greek idiots colonel's running Greece at the time and a complete state of panic during the transition from a dictatorship to a democracy.

It was a fluke, a lucky shot, the stars were alligned and your bunglng savages (when they weren't sinking themselves) made it onto the island.

What did the General mean by "I would rather fire towards Athens". Please don't give excuses. This is a military man, perfectly aware of his power and if you were aware of the Turkish power, than he must have been aswell. What did he mean?
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