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[samarkeolog]

Martin Packard has explained:

Naively, I failed to appreciate that one official British entity, namely the Intelligence Services, could act in such diametric opposition to another, namely the Commonwealth Relations Office. I also was unaware of the degree to which President Makarios’ search for independent policies, within the aegis of the Commonwealth and the Third World movement, ran contra to a secret US/UK dictum, formulated in response to events in Iraq in 1963, that genuine independence in the region was dangerous and must be ruthlessly opposed.

My reading subsequent to 1964, and a re-analysis of my time in Cyprus, have forced upon me an unwelcome realisation of the degree to which British Intelligence agencies, backed by the utterances of some of the less democratic occupants of Whitehall, have worked consistently and assiduously for the subversion of Cypriot unity. The BBC’s revelations about Britain’s 1963-4 complicity in TMT’s promotion of communal separation adds continuity to a story, confirmed by Turkish Cypriot commentators, such as historians Hasmat Gurkan, Arif Tahsin and Osman Orek, that runs from the British urging of separate union structures in 1931; through active support first for KATAK, a political organisation formed in 1943 to promote the concept of Turkish Cypriots as a separate entity; then for VOLKAN, the predecessor to TMT, formed in 1945 as a secret armed adjunct of the Turkish Cypriot leadership; and then for TMT on its formation in 1958; up to instances of recent interference in domestic Cypriot affairs....

Every aspect of my 1964 involvement in Cyprus, including the events at Photta, convinced me of the ability of the two communities to create an effective partnership and live peaceably together. Why they have so far failed to do so was further emphasised by the BBC enquiry. Democratic process has consistently been subverted, ethnic passions and the weaknesses of political leadership consistently exploited. Turkey and Greece were compliant in this process but its genesis and execution lay in the conviction of US/UK intelligence agencies that any form of Cypriot independence not controlled by other NATO countries was unacceptable.
The continuing poverty of Photta, and the emnities that exist there, are the fruit of that conviction.

[CBBB]

Martin Packard has explained:

Naively, I failed to appreciate that one official British entity, namely the Intelligence Services, could act in such diametric opposition to another, namely the Commonwealth Relations Office. I also was unaware of the degree to which President Makarios’ search for independent policies, within the aegis of the Commonwealth and the Third World movement, ran contra to a secret US/UK dictum, formulated in response to events in Iraq in 1963, that genuine independence in the region was dangerous and must be ruthlessly opposed.

My reading subsequent to 1964, and a re-analysis of my time in Cyprus, have forced upon me an unwelcome realisation of the degree to which British Intelligence agencies, backed by the utterances of some of the less democratic occupants of Whitehall, have worked consistently and assiduously for the subversion of Cypriot unity. The BBC’s revelations about Britain’s 1963-4 complicity in TMT’s promotion of communal separation adds continuity to a story, confirmed by Turkish Cypriot commentators, such as historians Hasmat Gurkan, Arif Tahsin and Osman Orek, that runs from the British urging of separate union structures in 1931; through active support first for KATAK, a political organisation formed in 1943 to promote the concept of Turkish Cypriots as a separate entity; then for VOLKAN, the predecessor to TMT, formed in 1945 as a secret armed adjunct of the Turkish Cypriot leadership; and then for TMT on its formation in 1958; up to instances of recent interference in domestic Cypriot affairs....

Every aspect of my 1964 involvement in Cyprus, including the events at Photta, convinced me of the ability of the two communities to create an effective partnership and live peaceably together. Why they have so far failed to do so was further emphasised by the BBC enquiry. Democratic process has consistently been subverted, ethnic passions and the weaknesses of political leadership consistently exploited. Turkey and Greece were compliant in this process but its genesis and execution lay in the conviction of US/UK intelligence agencies that any form of Cypriot independence not controlled by other NATO countries was unacceptable.
The continuing poverty of Photta, and the emnities that exist there, are the fruit of that conviction.

Hardly an impartial source.

[Paphitis]

This is the credible source:

Fanoulla Argyrou
Researcher/author
London 24.1.2006.

And in case you have not noticed, she is not making any extravagent claims but is researching claims from the very credible British Media - BBC Radio 4 transmitted on 23 Jan 06!

Is the BBC not credible enough for you CBBBC?

Yes, if you give me a link to their original piece, not just someone quoting from them!

Here you go!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4632080.stm

[YFred]

This is the credible source:

Fanoulla Argyrou
Researcher/author
London 24.1.2006.

And in case you have not noticed, she is not making any extravagent claims but is researching claims from the very credible British Media - BBC Radio 4 transmitted on 23 Jan 06!

Is the BBC not credible enough for you CBBBC?

Yes, if you give me a link to their original piece, not just someone quoting from them!

Here you go!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4632080.stm

Dirty theiving bastards, they stole some TC sheep and see where it got us?
So who's fault was it?

[CBBB]

This is the credible source:

Fanoulla Argyrou
Researcher/author
London 24.1.2006.

And in case you have not noticed, she is not making any extravagent claims but is researching claims from the very credible British Media - BBC Radio 4 transmitted on 23 Jan 06!

Is the BBC not credible enough for you CBBBC?

Yes, if you give me a link to their original piece, not just someone quoting from them!

Here you go!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4632080.stm

Well done, that wasn't too difficult was it.

Now for you earlier quotes in thins thread?

[samarkeolog]

Martin Packard has explained:

Naively, I failed to appreciate that one official British entity, namely the Intelligence Services, could act in such diametric opposition to another, namely the Commonwealth Relations Office. I also was unaware of the degree to which President Makarios’ search for independent policies, within the aegis of the Commonwealth and the Third World movement, ran contra to a secret US/UK dictum, formulated in response to events in Iraq in 1963, that genuine independence in the region was dangerous and must be ruthlessly opposed.

My reading subsequent to 1964, and a re-analysis of my time in Cyprus, have forced upon me an unwelcome realisation of the degree to which British Intelligence agencies, backed by the utterances of some of the less democratic occupants of Whitehall, have worked consistently and assiduously for the subversion of Cypriot unity. The BBC’s revelations about Britain’s 1963-4 complicity in TMT’s promotion of communal separation adds continuity to a story, confirmed by Turkish Cypriot commentators, such as historians Hasmat Gurkan, Arif Tahsin and Osman Orek, that runs from the British urging of separate union structures in 1931; through active support first for KATAK, a political organisation formed in 1943 to promote the concept of Turkish Cypriots as a separate entity; then for VOLKAN, the predecessor to TMT, formed in 1945 as a secret armed adjunct of the Turkish Cypriot leadership; and then for TMT on its formation in 1958; up to instances of recent interference in domestic Cypriot affairs....

Every aspect of my 1964 involvement in Cyprus, including the events at Photta, convinced me of the ability of the two communities to create an effective partnership and live peaceably together. Why they have so far failed to do so was further emphasised by the BBC enquiry. Democratic process has consistently been subverted, ethnic passions and the weaknesses of political leadership consistently exploited. Turkey and Greece were compliant in this process but its genesis and execution lay in the conviction of US/UK intelligence agencies that any form of Cypriot independence not controlled by other NATO countries was unacceptable.
The continuing poverty of Photta, and the emnities that exist there, are the fruit of that conviction.

Hardly an impartial source.

Unlike Greek Cypriot-supported and sponsored Michael Jansen?

If you hadn't noticed, Packard's criticising himself and his state, accusing and condemning its intelligence services for criminal, antidemocratic activity. What kind of intelligence genius would accuse his own intelligence services of subverting democracy? If you think he's producing propaganda, who does his propaganda benefit? Not him, not his state; perhaps he is not Evil incarnate...

[Paphitis]

This is the credible source:

Fanoulla Argyrou
Researcher/author
London 24.1.2006.

And in case you have not noticed, she is not making any extravagent claims but is researching claims from the very credible British Media - BBC Radio 4 transmitted on 23 Jan 06!

Is the BBC not credible enough for you CBBBC?

Yes, if you give me a link to their original piece, not just someone quoting from them!

Here you go!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4632080.stm

Well done, that wasn't too difficult was it.

Now for you earlier quotes in thins thread?

What earlier quotes?

Everything is quoted from either the BBC or Cyprus Mail and I have provided both the source and date. Find the damn link yourself!

Some of these articles are very old and it is almost impossible to provide you with a link.

[samarkeolog]

This is the credible source:

Fanoulla Argyrou
Researcher/author
London 24.1.2006.

And in case you have not noticed, she is not making any extravagent claims but is researching claims from the very credible British Media - BBC Radio 4 transmitted on 23 Jan 06!

Is the BBC not credible enough for you CBBBC?

Yes, if you give me a link to their original piece, not just someone quoting from them!

Here you go!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4632080.stm

Well done, that wasn't too difficult was it.

Now for you earlier quotes in thins thread?

What earlier quotes?

Everything is quoted from either the BBC or Cyprus Mail and I have provided both the source and date. Find the damn link yourself!

Some of these articles are very old and it is almost impossible to provide you with a link.

Yes, and unfortunately, the original radio programme is no longer available online, either. I did ask them about it - whether a copy of the programme, or a transcript was available - but got nothing.

[CBBB]

Everything is quoted from either the BBC or Cyprus Mail and I have provided both the source and date. Find the damn link yourself!

Some of these articles are very old and it is almost impossible to provide you with a link.

Don't these two statments contradict each other?

[YFred]

Everything is quoted from either the BBC or Cyprus Mail and I have provided both the source and date. Find the damn link yourself!

Some of these articles are very old and it is almost impossible to provide you with a link.

Don't these two statments contradict each other?

Whats the matter with everybody today, stop picking on the poor bafiti boy. Leave him alone, you are picking on him and its not fair. Play the white man!