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The positive impact of Turkish Settlers in the north

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Postby insan » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:56 am

turkkan wrote:I love the way 'jihadwatch' is being presented a serious source. If the state had not intervened in Cyprus to cut thallasemia by pre-marriage testing every other person would still be jaundiced as a mango. I got the 45 000 figure from the annan plan era, i seem to recall that was the amount that was being floated for marriages between TC's and people who had turkey as place of birth.


Seriously do you think that transferring such large amounts of people from Turkey was the "right" thing to do so soon after the conflict?



Most people did not have issue with the amount of people brought but more with the type of people brought. Unfortunately we got the poorest of the SE and alter on hatay sent here and everything that was associated with that. The TC government at the time knew full well it was happening and even encouraged it to help our political circumstances in any future negotiation. Lets not pretend this was fully imposed on us.

Also, when have you ever had trouble with a black sea settler?


No matter what ethnic origin and what education the settlers have; the biggest problem with them is the GC properties and land they occupy.
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Postby kurupetos » Thu Apr 02, 2009 2:17 am

insan wrote:
turkkan wrote:I love the way 'jihadwatch' is being presented a serious source. If the state had not intervened in Cyprus to cut thallasemia by pre-marriage testing every other person would still be jaundiced as a mango. I got the 45 000 figure from the annan plan era, i seem to recall that was the amount that was being floated for marriages between TC's and people who had turkey as place of birth.


Seriously do you think that transferring such large amounts of people from Turkey was the "right" thing to do so soon after the conflict?



Most people did not have issue with the amount of people brought but more with the type of people brought. Unfortunately we got the poorest of the SE and alter on hatay sent here and everything that was associated with that. The TC government at the time knew full well it was happening and even encouraged it to help our political circumstances in any future negotiation. Lets not pretend this was fully imposed on us.

Also, when have you ever had trouble with a black sea settler?


No matter what ethnic origin and what education the settlers have; the biggest problem with them is the GC properties and land they occupy.


Every problem has a solution: Bugger off back to Turkey! :evil:
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 02, 2009 8:32 am

insan wrote:http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX. :wink:


So 87,000 TC's in 2001 and 115,000 Settlers and you feel that this was a good thing Insan?

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm
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Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:33 am

Insane wrote:-

In the begining of the British rule TCs constituted 1/3 of Cyprus population
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The biggest drop in TC population occured during the First World War. In case you didn't know Britain and Turkey were at war during that conflict consequently many Turkish Cypriots left the island to return "home". You can't blame everything on the Greek Cypriots.
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Postby YFred » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:29 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX. :wink:


So 87,000 TC's in 2001 and 115,000 Settlers and you feel that this was a good thing Insan?

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

Considering one of those lovely ladies is married to my nephew and gave us two lovely Lurucadi children, and they speak Greek, Turkish and English to boot, no DT I have no problem with that. They are part of the human genome.

The agreement will determine how many will go back. Some no doubt some will go back especially if RoC compensates them adequately, but if you expect all to go, you are pissing in the wind again. Try the toilet, its more comfortable.
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Postby wallace » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:50 pm

YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX. :wink:


So 87,000 TC's in 2001 and 115,000 Settlers and you feel that this was a good thing Insan?

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

Considering one of those lovely ladies is married to my nephew and gave us two lovely Lurucadi children, and they speak Greek, Turkish and English to boot, no DT I have no problem with that. They are part of the human genome.

The agreement will determine how many will go back. Some no doubt some will go back especially if RoC compensates them adequately, but if you expect all to go, you are pissing in the wind again. Try the toilet, its more comfortable.


Why should the RoC compensate them? Let the fuckers that brought them over in the first place compensate them. So talking about piss anyways....Piss Off from our lands plonkers :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:52 pm

YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
insan wrote:http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX. :wink:


So 87,000 TC's in 2001 and 115,000 Settlers and you feel that this was a good thing Insan?

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

Considering one of those lovely ladies is married to my nephew and gave us two lovely Lurucadi children, and they speak Greek, Turkish and English to boot, no DT I have no problem with that. They are part of the human genome.

The agreement will determine how many will go back. Some no doubt some will go back especially if RoC compensates them adequately, but if you expect all to go, you are pissing in the wind again. Try the toilet, its more comfortable.


Don't expect them all to go, after all you did win the war in 74 and you get to commit all sort of war crimes without payng for them.

Will gladly pay all these bums 100 USD's each for them to start their barefoot march back into backwater anatolia.
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Postby Ierini-Baris » Thu Apr 02, 2009 12:56 pm

turkkan wrote:45 000 of them have married into our community so they added a bit of genetic diversity to our consanginous existence. Anything we can do to fight thallasemia!


I am working on thallasemia and I will tell you one thing settlers did not have much positive impact on fighting with thallasemia just the other way around there are 5 main mutations causing thallasemia in Cyprus and new mutations are being introduced by settlers. Only 2-3 TCs were born with thal. but this is because of prevention program and prenatal tests.
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Postby insan » Thu Apr 02, 2009 4:09 pm

DT. wrote:
insan wrote:http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/WorkingDocs/doc03/EDOC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX. :wink:


So 87,000 TC's in 2001 and 115,000 Settlers and you feel that this was a good thing Insan?

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm


The first phase of settlers that were around 30-35 thousands and their descendants absorbed TC culture and way of life. Perhaps their current numbers has reached 50-60 thousands? I have no idea abt how many TCs or settler descendant TCs intermarried with TCs or Turks of Turkey from 1974 until 2009.

The second phase of settlers that arrived in early 90s to work at construction field mostly settled down to inner walls of Nicosia. Not all of them were granted citizenship because there r too many seasonal labourers among them. I guess not more than 10-15 thousands of second phase of settlers were granted citizenship.

It seems some 30-35 thousands of Turks were granted citizenship by inter-marriage between TCs and Turks.

People r free to get marry with anyone from any nation or ethnicity. As for the rest; I'd like diaspora TCs to come and re-settle to North between the years 1974-2009 but just some of them returned and re-settled to North. It would be far better if diaspora TCs returned instead of settlers.
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