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[umit07]

Insan your mixing up issues. Focus on the issue, should Turkey brought in so many settlers. NO FFS, so many of them being brought into Cyprus not after a year after the intervention, poses a serious question about the intentions of Turkey.

[Oracle]

Insan your mixing up issues. Focus on the issue, should Turkey brought in so many settlers. NO FFS, so many of them being brought into Cyprus not after a year after the intervention, poses a serious question about the intentions of Turkey.

Umit ... Insan is a Settler!

@ insan ... your tautological points have been trashed too often ... there are no foundations to your arguments.

[umit07]

We may as well rub some more salt in the wound. With most of the TC construction workers in the south being paid less for the same work than their GC counterparts with no contribution for national insurance, who would build the houses in the TRNC if it wasn't for the Turkish construction workers?

I asked that question myself to many TC construction workers in the South, the conclusion I've come to is that many TC's work for larger companies that actually do pay there superannuation contributions. There are dodgy business people everywhere and I bet there are many more dodgy construction bosses in the North than the South.

[insan]

Insan your mixing up issues. Focus on the issue, should Turkey brought in so many settlers. NO FFS, so many of them being brought into Cyprus not after a year after the intervention, poses a serious question about the intentions of Turkey.

http://www.kingspalaceapartment.co.uk/geography.htm

Check table 4 plx.

[insan]

http://assembly.coe.int/Documents/Worki ... OC9799.htm

Check table 3 at bottom of the page. PLX.

[umit07]

Insan your mixing up issues. Focus on the issue, should Turkey brought in so many settlers. NO FFS, so many of them being brought into Cyprus not after a year after the intervention, poses a serious question about the intentions of Turkey.

http://www.kingspalaceapartment.co.uk/geography.htm

Check table 4 plx.

Hi Insan

Table 4, shows an population increase of 30k in 1977, compared to the TC pop. in 74. Seriously do you think that transferring such large amounts of people from Turkey was the "right" thing to do so soon after the conflict?

[umit07]

I checked both tables, Insan what is your point? They are both quite similar. What is your point?

[turkkan]

I love the way 'jihadwatch' is being presented a serious source. If the state had not intervened in Cyprus to cut thallasemia by pre-marriage testing every other person would still be jaundiced as a mango. I got the 45 000 figure from the annan plan era, i seem to recall that was the amount that was being floated for marriages between TC's and people who had turkey as place of birth.

Seriously do you think that transferring such large amounts of people from Turkey was the "right" thing to do so soon after the conflict?

Most people did not have issue with the amount of people brought but more with the type of people brought. Unfortunately we got the poorest of the SE and alter on hatay sent here and everything that was associated with that. The TC government at the time knew full well it was happening and even encouraged it to help our political circumstances in any future negotiation. Lets not pretend this was fully imposed on us.

Also, when have you ever had trouble with a black sea settler?

[insan]

Insan your mixing up issues. Focus on the issue, should Turkey brought in so many settlers. NO FFS, so many of them being brought into Cyprus not after a year after the intervention, poses a serious question about the intentions of Turkey.

http://www.kingspalaceapartment.co.uk/geography.htm

Check table 4 plx.

Hi Insan

Table 4, shows an population increase of 30k in 1977, compared to the TC pop. in 74. Seriously do you think that transferring such large amounts of people from Turkey was the "right" thing to do so soon after the conflict?

Hi Umit, under the then circumstances it was right to reinforce North of the Island to recover our more than 50 years of economic losses and develop the new but ruined settlement.

If then the Turkish government and TC administration had an hidden agenda like colonization of North they would have made an Akritas like sneaky plan in order not to take any attention towards colonization of North. Have u ever noticed any diversion tactics either by Turkey or TC administration regarding the settlers?

Everything developed in perfect correlation with the then realities of Cyprus.

Umit, r u aware of that it's been over a century we r struggling to survive as a politically equal community in Cyprus? And r u aware of that GC community in coopeartion with Greece and diaspora Greeks have always opposed and countered our struggle with majority rule struggle.

TCs that well aware of what's happened in the last hundred years in Cyprus well know of that the vast majority of GC community will never accept TC community as a politically equal community in Cyprus.

Had there been no settlers in North, how many TCs would have stayed in North? In 1974, TC were a badly hurt community, bearing the pains and frustrations of the past 50 years on their shoulders with the bitter memoirs of the oppression they had faced, human losses, fears they went through...

Had there been no settlers, would the Cyprus problem been solved long before? How?

In the begining of the British rule TCs constituted 1/3 of Cyprus population. Had there been no settlers, would all the TCs who emigrated mainly because of the oppressions, frustrations and fear of an unknown future; have returned following the events of 1974?

Everything developed according to the realities we have been faced, Umit. I many times at many occassions asked to the opposing persons on this forum... Now I'm asking to u Umit. Tell me where did TC administration and Turkey went wrong. Please don't tell me about the injustices of the privileaged happy minority because such happy minorities exist in every less developed societies and countries.

[insan]

I checked both tables, Insan what is your point? They are both quite similar. What is your point?

U claimed that the first phase of settlers arrived right after the events of 1974. The credible sources regarding TC population statistics don't prove u true.

Following the events of 1974, there were intense talks between all relevant parties in Vienna and Genova. No one knew or was sure abt in which direction the course of events would develop.