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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:45 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:yeah and it all started in 1974 as per the RoC PIO!



nooo way before 1974, it started whent he turks came to cyprus killing thousands of gcs and catholics, over 20,000 for what excuse do they have for that one?


My point being that if it is OK for the RoC PIO to deny the pain suffered by the TCs 63-74 then it is OK for Gul to tell an untruth as was originally claimed.

Imagine if the UK did not teach about the Highland clearances or what Cromwell did in Ireland? or the US not talk about slavery, Aus and Aborigines etc etc

There needs to be a less bias version of Cyprus history if the RoC want to convince 18% or so of it's population to trust it!


he also said if we accepted annan plan there would be no troops left in cyprus turkish ones,, lie because the anan plan said they would have 650 left over, they like to use the anan as an excuse a plan that was totally turkish taylored.




Turkish tailored!!....yet they cant even get into Europe, yet.

Deniz, are you insinuating that EU puts Turkey before Cyprus. You must wash your mouth with soap young man! Next time its double oruc for you for this sin alone. :lol: :lol:



I could do with a 'tripple' oruç, never mind a double. :lol:

Deniz, you can't lose weight by oruc. It has to be a proper non-sea food diet. When you see it, just don't eat it. Lots of Carrot and Celery for you.



Bad as my wife, you are. :lol: :lol:
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:49 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:yeah and it all started in 1974 as per the RoC PIO!



nooo way before 1974, it started whent he turks came to cyprus killing thousands of gcs and catholics, over 20,000 for what excuse do they have for that one?


My point being that if it is OK for the RoC PIO to deny the pain suffered by the TCs 63-74 then it is OK for Gul to tell an untruth as was originally claimed.

Imagine if the UK did not teach about the Highland clearances or what Cromwell did in Ireland? or the US not talk about slavery, Aus and Aborigines etc etc

There needs to be a less bias version of Cyprus history if the RoC want to convince 18% or so of it's population to trust it!


he also said if we accepted annan plan there would be no troops left in cyprus turkish ones,, lie because the anan plan said they would have 650 left over, they like to use the anan as an excuse a plan that was totally turkish taylored.




Turkish tailored!!....yet they cant even get into Europe, yet.

Deniz, are you insinuating that EU puts Turkey before Cyprus. You must wash your mouth with soap young man! Next time its double oruc for you for this sin alone. :lol: :lol:



I could do with a 'tripple' oruç, never mind a double. :lol:

Deniz, you can't lose weight by oruc. It has to be a proper non-sea food diet. When you see it, just don't eat it. Lots of Carrot and Celery for you.



Bad as my wife, you are. :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the club, I see you've gone over the 50 mark too then. That’s when they take over completely, although with me, it started at much earlier. There is a cure. You exchange her for a new one. It worked wanders for me.
I get Breakfast in bed and all sorts you know what I mean?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:54 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:yeah and it all started in 1974 as per the RoC PIO!



nooo way before 1974, it started whent he turks came to cyprus killing thousands of gcs and catholics, over 20,000 for what excuse do they have for that one?


My point being that if it is OK for the RoC PIO to deny the pain suffered by the TCs 63-74 then it is OK for Gul to tell an untruth as was originally claimed.

Imagine if the UK did not teach about the Highland clearances or what Cromwell did in Ireland? or the US not talk about slavery, Aus and Aborigines etc etc

There needs to be a less bias version of Cyprus history if the RoC want to convince 18% or so of it's population to trust it!


he also said if we accepted annan plan there would be no troops left in cyprus turkish ones,, lie because the anan plan said they would have 650 left over, they like to use the anan as an excuse a plan that was totally turkish taylored.




Turkish tailored!!....yet they cant even get into Europe, yet.

Deniz, are you insinuating that EU puts Turkey before Cyprus. You must wash your mouth with soap young man! Next time its double oruc for you for this sin alone. :lol: :lol:



I could do with a 'tripple' oruç, never mind a double. :lol:

Deniz, you can't lose weight by oruc. It has to be a proper non-sea food diet. When you see it, just don't eat it. Lots of Carrot and Celery for you.



Bad as my wife, you are. :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the club, I see you've gone over the 50 mark too then. That’s when they take over completely, although with me, it started at much earlier. There is a cure. You exchange her for a new one. It worked wanders for me.
I get Breakfast in bed and all sorts you know what I mean?



I tried twice, It doesnt work for me. Now where did I go wrong?
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 31, 2009 3:57 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:yeah and it all started in 1974 as per the RoC PIO!



nooo way before 1974, it started whent he turks came to cyprus killing thousands of gcs and catholics, over 20,000 for what excuse do they have for that one?


My point being that if it is OK for the RoC PIO to deny the pain suffered by the TCs 63-74 then it is OK for Gul to tell an untruth as was originally claimed.

Imagine if the UK did not teach about the Highland clearances or what Cromwell did in Ireland? or the US not talk about slavery, Aus and Aborigines etc etc

There needs to be a less bias version of Cyprus history if the RoC want to convince 18% or so of it's population to trust it!


he also said if we accepted annan plan there would be no troops left in cyprus turkish ones,, lie because the anan plan said they would have 650 left over, they like to use the anan as an excuse a plan that was totally turkish taylored.




Turkish tailored!!....yet they cant even get into Europe, yet.

Deniz, are you insinuating that EU puts Turkey before Cyprus. You must wash your mouth with soap young man! Next time its double oruc for you for this sin alone. :lol: :lol:



I could do with a 'tripple' oruç, never mind a double. :lol:

Deniz, you can't lose weight by oruc. It has to be a proper non-sea food diet. When you see it, just don't eat it. Lots of Carrot and Celery for you.



Bad as my wife, you are. :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the club, I see you've gone over the 50 mark too then. That’s when they take over completely, although with me, it started at much earlier. There is a cure. You exchange her for a new one. It worked wanders for me.
I get Breakfast in bed and all sorts you know what I mean?



I tried twice, It doesnt work for me. Now where did I go wrong?

Did I not mention it, you have to get them to believe that you love them, didn't they teach you anything in Kofunye Ilk Okulu?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:25 pm

YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:
AWE wrote:yeah and it all started in 1974 as per the RoC PIO!



nooo way before 1974, it started whent he turks came to cyprus killing thousands of gcs and catholics, over 20,000 for what excuse do they have for that one?


My point being that if it is OK for the RoC PIO to deny the pain suffered by the TCs 63-74 then it is OK for Gul to tell an untruth as was originally claimed.

Imagine if the UK did not teach about the Highland clearances or what Cromwell did in Ireland? or the US not talk about slavery, Aus and Aborigines etc etc

There needs to be a less bias version of Cyprus history if the RoC want to convince 18% or so of it's population to trust it!


he also said if we accepted annan plan there would be no troops left in cyprus turkish ones,, lie because the anan plan said they would have 650 left over, they like to use the anan as an excuse a plan that was totally turkish taylored.




Turkish tailored!!....yet they cant even get into Europe, yet.

Deniz, are you insinuating that EU puts Turkey before Cyprus. You must wash your mouth with soap young man! Next time its double oruc for you for this sin alone. :lol: :lol:



I could do with a 'tripple' oruç, never mind a double. :lol:

Deniz, you can't lose weight by oruc. It has to be a proper non-sea food diet. When you see it, just don't eat it. Lots of Carrot and Celery for you.



Bad as my wife, you are. :lol: :lol:

Welcome to the club, I see you've gone over the 50 mark too then. That’s when they take over completely, although with me, it started at much earlier. There is a cure. You exchange her for a new one. It worked wanders for me.
I get Breakfast in bed and all sorts you know what I mean?



I tried twice, It doesnt work for me. Now where did I go wrong?

Did I not mention it, you have to get them to believe that you love them, didn't they teach you anything in Kofunye Ilk Okulu?



We loved regardless. No need to convince. My first love was from there. Her family wanted to kill me. I was 12 then. :oops:
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Postby Kifeas » Tue Mar 31, 2009 4:42 pm

Abdullah Gul: “I must say one thing. We don’t ask the Cypriot Greeks for a visa. Not many people know that. But no-one can deny there is a problem. There is a problem in Cyprus. There are two parts: Greek Cyprus and Turkish Cyprus. Why has the United Nations proposed a peace agreement?"

Of course Abdullah, …of course! There are two parts in Cyprus, Turkish Cyprus and Greek Cyprus.... Of course! Whatever you say!

And I suppose the 200,000 Greek Cypriots that you ethnically cleansed from the north and stole their homes and properties, and which were making 80% of the population in those areas, weren't indigenous inhabitants lawfully residing in the part of Cyprus you have "liberated," but were instead past illegal invaders and occupiers of the "Turkish part" of Cyprus. Of course! Whatever you say, Abdullahomeini!

Siktir I say to you, Hun! Siktir to you and to your millet, and to all those supporting you! With such brains, Hun, you will never see the front door of the EU, set aside cross it, no matter how much some of your friends and allies will cry and jump up and down!!
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:24 pm

Kifeas wrote:Abdullah Gul: “I must say one thing. We don’t ask the Cypriot Greeks for a visa. Not many people know that. But no-one can deny there is a problem. There is a problem in Cyprus. There are two parts: Greek Cyprus and Turkish Cyprus. Why has the United Nations proposed a peace agreement?"

Of course Abdullah, …of course! There are two parts in Cyprus, Turkish Cyprus and Greek Cyprus.... Of course! Whatever you say!

And I suppose the 200,000 Greek Cypriots that you ethnically cleansed from the north and stole their homes and properties, and which were making 80% of the population in those areas, weren't indigenous inhabitants lawfully residing in the part of Cyprus you have "liberated," but were instead past illegal invaders and occupiers of the "Turkish part" of Cyprus. Of course! Whatever you say, Abdullahomeini!

Siktir I say to you, Hun! Siktir to you and to your millet, and to all those supporting you! With such brains, Hun, you will never see the front door of the EU, set aside cross it, no matter how much some of your friends and allies will cry and jump up and down!!


4 or 5 years ago, my dear friend Kifeas was a moderate minded, real man. Lately, his mind has gone ultra-hardcore. Your hardcore behaviours does not match with the realities of Cyprus and the world, my friend. Accept it that this is a struggle of Turkish Solution Thesis VS Greek Solution Thesis. All what we have gone through and the current situation is the inevitable consequence of this struggle. U need to evaluate the issue in this concept and think abt how we can solve the problem partly or as a whole... At the end of the day, the globalizing world requires Hellenes and Greeks to peacefully come togteher around the common interests in our region. :wink:

Hardcore feelings, such as hatred or any destructive behaviours usually damage the source more than the target. :wink:
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 31, 2009 6:59 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
anna-sh wrote:http://www.euronews.net/2009/03/30abdullah-gul-we-will-fight-pkk-to-the-death/



Thank you.

The translation says, 'there is no immigratio....'. Is that the present tense?

I suppose all those strangely attired people are from Pluto. Someone should inform him of the truth.


Deniz; "settlers" from Turkey is the inevitable consequence of being an unrecognized entity in North. In the begining of the British Rule TCs constituted 1/3 of Cyprus population. From the begining of the British rule until 1974 too many TCs emigrated to other countries, besides the Cyprus problem negatively affected the birth rate, economic, social and psychological conditions of TCs.

Afterwards 1974, the continuation of the Cyprus problem and it's side effects on TC life forced more TCs to emigrate abroad. The remaining TCs in Cyprus needed a labour force in agricultural area and later in construction field to develop an economy that would stand on it's own feet and feed both TCs and all other inhabitants living in North.

Had TRNC or TFSoC or under any name TC administration been a recognized entity we would have not need labour force or a consuming population from Turkey. All TCs would have stayed in Cyprus and most probably those who emigrated from Cyprus to abroad would have returned with their families and investment plans...

The economic contribution of the "settlers", students mainly from Turkey, Turkish troops and tourists mainly from Turkey has always been an sagnificant element for our economy in North.

Vast majority of "settlers" were granted citizenships according to the relevant laws of TRNC. Due to small size of TC population, the gradual increase of the numbers of "settlers", either by migration or breeding can be considered as "settlers" outnumber TCs but in reality the situation is not like that.

The GC properties they occupy and use is completely a different issue and can be discussed...
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Postby turkkan » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:27 pm

Abdullah gul as president of turkey does not know the ins and outs of the cyprus issue as its not a big issue for him or his party. He knows what turkeys general stance is and what his parties stance is in terms of the cyprus problem but small details or legal issues are all left to a segment of the ministry of foreign affairs who do the main work in the international arena concerning turkeys stance in cyprus.
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Postby anna-sh » Tue Mar 31, 2009 7:35 pm

well maybe its about time he learnt the ins & outs before spouting lies on TV......
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