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The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc.

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.

You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.

I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.

Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.

Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.

And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.

We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.

Its a known fact that your Turks hater deceased leader did not negotiate in good faith.

And your Greek lover Denktash did.

Regardless of the reasons your claim is that we do not accept compromise....the plan that was delivered to us wether it was negotiated badly or not could not be accepted...so what is your point

My point and the point of this thread is that GCs do not want to compromise as they do not know how and no plan will satisfy them unless they cross the t's and dot the i's.

VP you are wrong in thinking that all GCs are the same. There is plenty decent ones, they are just a few and far between on this forum. Wait and see the result of the next vote, especially if the two main parties recommend it.

Of course there are fine and decent GCs ı know a few myself but this does not chnage the overall feeling although some do not display their opinions you can sense they are full of vengence and given the opportunity would soon erupt and discriminate you or worse at the blink of an eye and then make feable excuses as GCs do on almost all subjects where their weaknesses are revealed.

[Sotos]

Folks,

I read a news report about Greece once again digging in its heels regarding the Republic of Macedonia's name. Macedonia (or FYROM to you Greek Cypriot folk out there) has been independent for some years now, and yet Greece still blocks it's participation in various international forums over the name. This shows a very hard-line and uncompromising stance. Certain countries in thew world share the same name (Look at Congo for example, and the official name of Mexico is actually the United States - Estados Unitos de Mexico), yet Greece simply won't hear of the government in Skope using "Macedonia'.
The opinions expressed on this forum by Greek Cypriots also show a hard-line stance towards their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern. The lack of compromising could thus be viewed as a general trait of those with Hellenic blood. Is this an accurate observation? Can Hellenes be incapable of a compromising disposition? Lack of compromise is hampering the solution to the Cyprus Problem, and the problem will continue for as long as there is an unwillingness for BOTH sides to compromise.

And when we are right why should we be the ones to compromise? The Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus and illegally declared the pseudo state on our land. And we should be the ones to compromise?

[Viewpoint]

Folks,

I read a news report about Greece once again digging in its heels regarding the Republic of Macedonia's name. Macedonia (or FYROM to you Greek Cypriot folk out there) has been independent for some years now, and yet Greece still blocks it's participation in various international forums over the name. This shows a very hard-line and uncompromising stance. Certain countries in thew world share the same name (Look at Congo for example, and the official name of Mexico is actually the United States - Estados Unitos de Mexico), yet Greece simply won't hear of the government in Skope using "Macedonia'.
The opinions expressed on this forum by Greek Cypriots also show a hard-line stance towards their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern. The lack of compromising could thus be viewed as a general trait of those with Hellenic blood. Is this an accurate observation? Can Hellenes be incapable of a compromising disposition? Lack of compromise is hampering the solution to the Cyprus Problem, and the problem will continue for as long as there is an unwillingness for BOTH sides to compromise.

And when we are right why should we be the ones to compromise? The Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus and illegally declared the pseudo state on our land. And we should be the ones to compromise?

Are you guys ever wrong? do you realize when you are wrong?

[Sotos]

Folks,

I read a news report about Greece once again digging in its heels regarding the Republic of Macedonia's name. Macedonia (or FYROM to you Greek Cypriot folk out there) has been independent for some years now, and yet Greece still blocks it's participation in various international forums over the name. This shows a very hard-line and uncompromising stance. Certain countries in thew world share the same name (Look at Congo for example, and the official name of Mexico is actually the United States - Estados Unitos de Mexico), yet Greece simply won't hear of the government in Skope using "Macedonia'.
The opinions expressed on this forum by Greek Cypriots also show a hard-line stance towards their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern. The lack of compromising could thus be viewed as a general trait of those with Hellenic blood. Is this an accurate observation? Can Hellenes be incapable of a compromising disposition? Lack of compromise is hampering the solution to the Cyprus Problem, and the problem will continue for as long as there is an unwillingness for BOTH sides to compromise.

And when we are right why should we be the ones to compromise? The Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus and illegally declared the pseudo state on our land. And we should be the ones to compromise?

Are you guys ever wrong? do you realize when you are wrong?

When you illegally invade us, you illegally occupy our land and you illegally declare a pseudo state then you are wrong obviously. Not us.

[Viewpoint]

Folks,

I read a news report about Greece once again digging in its heels regarding the Republic of Macedonia's name. Macedonia (or FYROM to you Greek Cypriot folk out there) has been independent for some years now, and yet Greece still blocks it's participation in various international forums over the name. This shows a very hard-line and uncompromising stance. Certain countries in thew world share the same name (Look at Congo for example, and the official name of Mexico is actually the United States - Estados Unitos de Mexico), yet Greece simply won't hear of the government in Skope using "Macedonia'.
The opinions expressed on this forum by Greek Cypriots also show a hard-line stance towards their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern. The lack of compromising could thus be viewed as a general trait of those with Hellenic blood. Is this an accurate observation? Can Hellenes be incapable of a compromising disposition? Lack of compromise is hampering the solution to the Cyprus Problem, and the problem will continue for as long as there is an unwillingness for BOTH sides to compromise.

And when we are right why should we be the ones to compromise? The Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus and illegally declared the pseudo state on our land. And we should be the ones to compromise?

Are you guys ever wrong? do you realize when you are wrong?

When you illegally invade us, you illegally occupy our land and you illegally declare a pseudo state then you are wrong obviously. Not us.

We have been here for over 400 years dont you think its time you realized that we have just as much right to be here as you do. As for the Turkish army they will leave as soon as we agree a solution so now you know how to get rid of them.

[utu]

Folks,

I read a news report about Greece once again digging in its heels regarding the Republic of Macedonia's name. Macedonia (or FYROM to you Greek Cypriot folk out there) has been independent for some years now, and yet Greece still blocks it's participation in various international forums over the name. This shows a very hard-line and uncompromising stance. Certain countries in thew world share the same name (Look at Congo for example, and the official name of Mexico is actually the United States - Estados Unitos de Mexico), yet Greece simply won't hear of the government in Skope using "Macedonia'.
The opinions expressed on this forum by Greek Cypriots also show a hard-line stance towards their estranged Turkish Cypriot brethern. The lack of compromising could thus be viewed as a general trait of those with Hellenic blood. Is this an accurate observation? Can Hellenes be incapable of a compromising disposition? Lack of compromise is hampering the solution to the Cyprus Problem, and the problem will continue for as long as there is an unwillingness for BOTH sides to compromise.

And when we are right why should we be the ones to compromise? The Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus and illegally declared the pseudo state on our land. And we should be the ones to compromise?

Are you guys ever wrong? do you realize when you are wrong?

When you illegally invade us, you illegally occupy our land and you illegally declare a pseudo state then you are wrong obviously. Not us.

You're really not helping to dispel my observation, Sotos. Failure to compromise led to the violence starting in 1963. The entire chain of events leading to the catastrophe of mid-1974 can be traced back to that. True, the Turkish side has shown similar stubbornness in its dealings, but given the "bottom line" of each side's demands, it is not surprising that the one recent attempt to compromise - the Annan Plan - was doomed to failure. It wasn't a perfect plan, but it could have worked.