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Postby Simon » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:48 pm

VP you confuse compromise with capitulation. :roll:

If we still had your hardline stance we would all be demanding enosis.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 31, 2009 9:48 pm

Simon wrote:VP you confuse compromise with capitulation. :roll:

If we still had your hardline stance we would all be demanding enosis.


You have that already.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
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Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:05 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:07 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.


We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:10 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.


We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.


Its a known fact that your Turks hater deceased leader did not negotiate in good faith.
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.


We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.


Its a known fact that your Turks hater deceased leader did not negotiate in good faith.


And your Greek lover Denktash did. :?

Regardless of the reasons your claim is that we do not accept compromise....the plan that was delivered to us wether it was negotiated badly or not could not be accepted...so what is your point
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Postby Simon » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:14 pm

A BBF was a compromise for us. But you give the Turks an inch and they take a mile.

VP wrote:

[quote]You have that already[/quote]

:shock: Really? The last time I checked the Republic of Cyprus is an independent state and still operates under the 1960 Constitution.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:16 pm

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.


We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.


Its a known fact that your Turks hater deceased leader did not negotiate in good faith.


And your Greek lover Denktash did. :?

Regardless of the reasons your claim is that we do not accept compromise....the plan that was delivered to us wether it was negotiated badly or not could not be accepted...so what is your point


My point and the point of this thread is that GCs do not want to compromise as they do not know how and no plan will satisfy them unless they cross the t's and dot the i's.
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Postby YFred » Tue Mar 31, 2009 10:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Simon wrote:The thread GR started is perfect proof that Greece's concerns are absolutely justified, with all the FYROM propaganda floating around about how Alexander was a Slav etc. :lol:

Utu you must be joking? Greeks don't compromise? Many TCs and Turkey still seek partition (or veiled forms of it through AP), this would be the equivalent of GCs still calling for enosis, and you say we don't compromise? :roll: As far as I'm concerned, compromise is all I ever see the GCs do, whilst Turkey remains hardline.


You rejected the AP how can that be compromise? You must be GC so you probably dont.


I've lost count the number of tc's on this forum that said we would never had voted for the plan had we been GC's.

Compromise doesn't mean suicide.


Compromise means taking into account realities on the groud and adapting to reach an agreement.


Didn't see Turkey make any compromises. They handed in a 9 point demand and everyone of them wa sincluded in the plan.


And you rejected the AP...the fact stands that to find a solution compromise is necessary unless we understand this then we will get nowhere as is the question today.


We understand this pefectly well VP. Had Turkey made some compromises on the plan we might have voted for it. On the contrary seems that all the comprimises were made by the GC's.


Its a known fact that your Turks hater deceased leader did not negotiate in good faith.


And your Greek lover Denktash did. :?

Regardless of the reasons your claim is that we do not accept compromise....the plan that was delivered to us wether it was negotiated badly or not could not be accepted...so what is your point


My point and the point of this thread is that GCs do not want to compromise as they do not know how and no plan will satisfy them unless they cross the t's and dot the i's.

VP you are wrong in thinking that all GCs are the same. There is plenty decent ones, they are just a few and far between on this forum. Wait and see the result of the next vote, especially if the two main parties recommend it.
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