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Postby Get Real! » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:52 pm

Lit wrote:
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Lit wrote:Ill start the debate right now.

GR,

Name me one reputable historian that backs up the FYROM slav claim that they are direct descendants of Alexander the Great?

As you can see, the debate is over before it even started.

Your question is based on the assumption of an assumption that modern Macedonians are descendants of Alexander and they are not.


Its not an assumption. FYROM slavs claim to be direct descendants of Alexander the Great. Look:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0321/p01s01-wogn.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0327/p20s01-woeu.html

I don't doubt that they claim but its validity.
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Postby Lit » Sun Mar 29, 2009 11:53 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Lit wrote:Ill start the debate right now.

GR,

Name me one reputable historian that backs up the FYROM slav claim that they are direct descendants of Alexander the Great?

As you can see, the debate is over before it even started.

Your question is based on the assumption of an assumption that modern Macedonians are descendants of Alexander and they are not.


Its not an assumption. FYROM slavs claim to be direct descendants of Alexander the Great. Look:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0321/p01s01-wogn.html

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0327/p20s01-woeu.html

I don't doubt that they claim but its validity.


Yeah, the debate is over. I know.
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:50 am

will you 2 get off my thread and get back to yours please.
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:16 pm

Just been through last nights debate on the continuation of Greeks from ancient through to modern times and its impact on the population in Cyprus.

Mrs O I will accept the responsibility of passing judgement after all arguments have been placed and an application is made by both parties. GR! on one side and an approved representative of the other.

P.s I can pm my bank account number in advance as this office takes pride in declaring that bribes are very much accepted. :D
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Postby YFred » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:07 pm

DT. wrote:Just been through last nights debate on the continuation of Greeks from ancient through to modern times and its impact on the population in Cyprus.

Mrs O I will accept the responsibility of passing judgement after all arguments have been placed and an application is made by both parties. GR! on one side and an approved representative of the other.

P.s I can pm my bank account number in advance as this office takes pride in declaring that bribes are very much accepted. :D

Where is my 30%, its in the constituion, I'll have you know.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:10 pm

DT. wrote:So far the debate is shit boring....load of books and boring text...


I'm so bored...where's runaway?



Ran away. :lol:
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Re: Hellenism (thread for non-debaters comments)

Postby denizaksulu » Mon Mar 30, 2009 1:11 pm

insan wrote:
DT. wrote:I figured all those simply observing this debate need somewhere to post their comments on how its going without disturbing the main thread.

I'm such an organisational freak :roll:

I'd also figure I'd manage to keep insan and yfred busy in here. :lol:


Currently it all seems like a "Greek" thing. I don't wanna interfere ur "Greek" things if even GR attempts a coup. :lol: As I previously stated the Greeks in Greece and Turks in Turkey r all mingled Turco-Greco cousins. :wink: :lol:



I will not argue with that. More so in Turkey though. :lol:
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Postby T_C » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:11 pm

It's so true! When you look at old pictures of Anatolian Greeks they are the spitting image of the Turks in Turkey now.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Mar 30, 2009 2:21 pm

T_C wrote:It's so true! When you look at old pictures of Anatolian Greeks they are the spitting image of the Turks in Turkey now.



I had a book once written by Vryonis. I think it was called 'the Turkification of Turkey'. Its an incredible book. No Turk would read it and be comfortable.

I gave it to a linguist at the EMU (Prof Pillai). I wish I had kept it.


Here is the full title:


The Decline of Medieval Hellenism in Asia Minor: And the Process of Islamization from the Eleventh through the Fifteenth Century

Author: Speros Vryonis
Format: Book (Illustrated), 532 pages
Publication Date: January 1971
Publisher: Unknown
ISBN-10: 0520015975
ISBN-13: 9780520015975



Available from Amazon.
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Postby T_C » Mon Mar 30, 2009 3:13 pm

Coool Deniz, I'll have to check it out. :)

I really want to find out about my own genes. People always think I'm either a Greek, Italian or Spanish...and after seeing some pictures of those old Pontian Greeks it's really made me wonder... :?
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