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[DT.]

I must say, our Macedonian friends at the MakNews forum, UTTERLY DEMOLISH modern Greece’s mythologies with an overwhelming collection of damning evidence from a multitude of authors, from all over the world including Greeks! Truly fascinating stuff!

I strongly encourage everyone to read through all 5 pages of posts of that thread. My goodness…

GR, why cant these forumers see your sense of humour? Put them out of their misery and tell them its a wind-up.

How can it possibly be a wind up Deniz? Dozens of authors from all over the world have conducted their independent research and end up agreeing that modern Greeks are full of shit about so many things…

All these experts who have nothing to gain are wrong yet the Greeks who have so much to lose are right?

I was not disagreeing with you DT. I am assuming GR is winding you lot up. I hate to see him further humiliated. After all, he is my fellow Chiroikhitian.

The fraternity of Chirokoitians is eccentric enough to be able to confuse itself sometimes in its quest for a different approach to maintaining an identity on this island.

On the one hand there is a need to halt repetitive mistakes of the past with associating itself with the mother countries and on the other by dissasociating itself it is providing ammunition to the little ticky-birds that plague this forum.

On the GC side this is a much easier task since it is done in conjunction with Greece's "i don't wanna know" attitude (ran by Karamanlis) regarding Cyprus. Not so for the TC side were apart from an educated Istanbulian elite who'd be happy to loosen ties with Cyprus in favour of an EU path, the grasp on the TC's is very much strong.

So a GC Chirokoitian casting Greece away is seen as less of a traitor and more of an eccentric than a TC doing the same.

GR! can post what he likes for his own amusement and if he digs deep his issue is with an image of Hellenism as personified with certain people he knows rather than his background. The betrayal in 1974 of the Cypriots by the Junta will never be forgotten either by the likes of GR despite it being a betrayal by the governing dictators and not the people.

There are some that are content with the co-existence of the 2 in their psyche (such as myself) but that has more to do with your background rather than what you know now.

Anyway,

I wouldn't mind any of this so much but for the poor, badly researched, kindergarten level posts the Fredsans (insan/yfred) post as the resident ticky-birds.

How dare you underestimate my education level, I have an Ilkokul diploma with pekiyi I'll have you know.
One of the topics included was how not to get shot by the beloved eoka. I passed that with flying colours. And you call yourself a Cypriot.

I don't call me anything. Why would EOKA shoot you? Were you collaborating with the English?

[insan]

Had everything gone as expected, Greek Junta and coupist backed Enosis would have succeeded. Be sure of that Oracle and DT alikes who only have groundling and pre-judiced knowledge regarding Cyprus problem; would have much appreciated the heroic victory of Greek Junta and coupists. They r not even aware of how ridiculous their groundling and prejudiced comprehensions were... How ridiculous is to believe that Greek Junta and it's extensions in Cyprus; the ultra-nationalist elements of Hellenic forces would betray their own people in favour of Turks!

[DT.]

Had everything gone as expected, Greek Junta and coupist backed Enosis would have succeeded. Be sure of that Oracle and DT alikes who only have groundling and pre-judiced knowledge regarding Cyprus problem; would have much appreciated the heroic victory of Greek Junta and coupists. They r not even aware of how ridiculous their groundling and prejudiced comprehensions were... How ridiculous is to believe that Greek Junta and it's extensions in Cyprus; the ultra-nationalist elements of Hellenic forces would betray their own people in favour of Turks!

Do you know what a ticky-bird is?

[YFred]

Had everything gone as expected, Greek Junta and coupist backed Enosis would have succeeded. Be sure of that Oracle and DT alikes who only have groundling and pre-judiced knowledge regarding Cyprus problem; would have much appreciated the heroic victory of Greek Junta and coupists. They r not even aware of how ridiculous their groundling and prejudiced comprehensions were... How ridiculous is to believe that Greek Junta and it's extensions in Cyprus; the ultra-nationalist elements of Hellenic forces would betray their own people in favour of Turks!

Its called living in denial. As if anybody in Greece could have helped, but we must continue with the pretence. It makes our GC pretend friends happy.

[Simon]

You all assume GR is joking, but I don't, I think the guy is serious, which just shows everybody how stupid he really is. You lot really give him too much credit.

GR you are delusional. There is no hope for you. Any further posts to you would just simply be a waste of everyone's time. Your only friends on this thread are the same people you want to fight you fool. Do you ever wonder why the TCs support you in your pathetic quest? You have been humiliated, and like a fool, you still don't know when to run away with your tail between your legs. Instead you compound your embarrassment.

The "Bronze Age Greeks" came to this island you moron, so how do you work out they were 300 miles away?

[Get Real!]

You all assume GR is joking, but I don't, I think the guy is serious, which just shows everybody how stupid he really is. You lot really give him too much credit.

GR you are delusional. There is no hope for you. Any further posts to you would just simply be a waste of everyone's time. Your only friends on this thread are the same people you want to fight you fool. Do you ever wonder why the TCs support you in your pathetic quest? You have been humiliated, and like a fool, you still don't know when to run away with your tail between your legs. Instead you compound your embarrassment.

The "Bronze Age Greeks" came to this island you moron, so how do you work out they were 300 miles away?

Dozens of authors from around the world including many Greeks are trying to open your eyes to reality but you’re too busy dismissing it all by conveniently pretending that it’s all GR’s fault… as if I wrote any of that material!

Your issue is with yourself Simon.

[Simon]

GR, what about the hundreds of authors, who easily make up the consensus, stating otherwise? You choose to ignore them. Whilst you can quote dozens of authors, we can quote hundreds. Whilst you can quote dozens of authors, we can quote the world's museums. Whilst you can quote dozens of authors, we can quote the world's libraries. Whilst you quote dozens of authors, we can quote genetic evidence. Whilst you can quote dozens of authors, we can quote independent experts on Alexander; experts used by world famous directors, like Oliver Stone. Why not look at independent sources, not quoted by Greeks or Skopjians? Robin Lane Fox:

[quote]In my view, he set out to reach the eastern edge of the inhabited world. Like his great tutor, Aristotle, he had seriously underestimated its extent. Tutorials back in Greek Macedonia had persuaded him that the world ran out in northwest India.[/quote]

This man has spent much of his life studying Alexander. He refers to it as "Greek Macedonia".

http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ ... t=0&page=1

Aristotle was born in Macedonia; are you going to tell us he was not Greek as well? Alexander himself undisputably thought he was Greek, and you still choose to ignore it. I accept there are some differing views from certain historians, (there always is) but the evidence in favour of the Greeks is overwhelming and compelling. This thread alone has shown this. It's a shame that your personal vendetta against modern day Greece completely clouds your judgment. Who would guess from your posts that Greece is still Cyprus' closest ally.

[alexISS]

You all assume GR is joking, but I don't, I think the guy is serious, which just shows everybody how stupid he really is. You lot really give him too much credit.

GR you are delusional. There is no hope for you. Any further posts to you would just simply be a waste of everyone's time. Your only friends on this thread are the same people you want to fight you fool. Do you ever wonder why the TCs support you in your pathetic quest? You have been humiliated, and like a fool, you still don't know when to run away with your tail between your legs. Instead you compound your embarrassment.

The "Bronze Age Greeks" came to this island you moron, so how do you work out they were 300 miles away?

Dozens of authors from around the world including many Greeks are trying to open your eyes to reality but you’re too busy dismissing it all by conveniently pretending that it’s all GR’s fault… as if I wrote any of that material!

Your issue is with yourself Simon.

Dozens? Try three to five as opposed to HUNDREDS who say otherwise. The Greek authors are not included, you obviously have no idea who Paparigopoulos is and what he wrote about the formation of the Greek state. The paragraphs "you" highlighted are actually included in Greek history books.

So, are you stupid enough to believe that the Greek language was imposed to the "slavs" that replaced the ancient Greeks? Who forced the revival of that dead language then? The foreign "great powers"? The newly formed Greek state? What about the greek populations outside the Greek state, in Asia Minor, Cyprus or Southern Albania, those people were (and still are where they are not extinct) speaking more or less the same Greek language of the "slavs" in the Greek state. Care to explain that? Actually, can you contribute anything that is your own and not some Fyromian propaganda in the thread that you yourself started?

[alexISS]

I believe Get Real! is actually jealous of Hellenism, which survived countless wars and invasions, while his very own Chirokitians were absorbed and assimilated without a single slingshot
It must hurt to know that your beloved ancestors were so eager to be hellenized, imagine how bad their life was before the Greek colonization

[Simon]

Good point alexISS.