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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:24 pm

Nikitas wrote:Never mind he evolution of the language. Show us a sample phrase of ancient Macedonian. We want to see the real thing.


FOr the first time ever one poster has the attention of so many. We're all waiting Insan...show us one phrase of ancient Macedonian.
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:25 pm

Oracle,

He has already evaded that difficulty by saying that nobles in ancient Macedonia spoke Greek, like later nobles spoke French! What a nutter!

That is why I asked for a swear word in pur e ancient Macedonian. No matter how well bred they must have sworn in their own language! Which is what I am about to do to Insan!
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:28 pm

insan wrote:
Evolution of Macedonian Language.


“Cyrillus autem et Methodius fratres, Graeci, Thessalonicae nati…”

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_ ... is_lt.html

Pope John Paul II.
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Postby Simon » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:29 pm

Another FYROM propaganda website.

Many argued that Greece was being petty over the "Macedonia" name issue, but this thread is beginning to prove them absolutely right in their concerns.

[quote]The Macedonian royal family, known as the Argead dynasty, claimed Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese[/quote]

^ Herodotus. Histories, 5.20.4, 5.22.1, 9.45.
^ Arrian. Anabasis Alexandri. Book II, 14, 4.
^ Quintus Curtius Rufus, "Historiae Alexandri Magni", 6.3.11.
^ Polybius. The Histories, 7.9.4, 18.4.8.


[quote]Following the archaeological discoveries of the 20th century, numerous modern scholars now advocate the opinion that the ancient Macedonians were of Greek origin which to this day remains the most common concensus[/quote]

A. R. Burn, Alexander the Great and the Hellenistic Empire, Macmillan, 1948; George Cawkwell, Philip of Macedon, Faber & Faber, London, 1978; Francois Chamoux, Hellenistic Civilization, Blackwell Publishing Professional, 2002; Victor Ehrenberg, The Greek State, Methuen, (July 2000); Malcolm Errington, A History of Macedonia, University of California Press, February 1993; Alan Fildes and Joann Fletcher, Alexander the Great: Son of the Gods, Getty Trust Publications, J. Paul Getty Museum, 2004; John V.A. Fine, The Ancient Greeks: A Critical History, Harvard University Press, 1983; Robin Lane Fox, Alexander the Great; Jonathan M. Hall, Ethnic Identity in Greek Antiquity, Cambridge University Press, 1998; N G L Hammond, A History of Greece to 323 BC, Cambridge University, 1986; Archer Jones, The Art of War in Western World (University of Illinois Press, 2000); Robin Osborne, Greek History, Routledge, 2004; Jacques Pirenne, The Tides of History Vol. 1, E. P. Dutton, 1962; Michael M. Sage, Warfare in Ancient Greece, Routledge; Chester G. Starr, A History of the Ancient World, Oxford University Press, 1991; Hilding Thylander, Den Grekiska världen, (Svenska humanistiska förbundet, 1985); Arnold J. Toynbee, The Greeks and Their Heritages, Oxford University Press, 1981; Ulrich Wilcken, Alexander the Great; Ian Worthington, Alexander the Great, Routledge, 2002.


BEAT ALL THOSE INDEPENDENT SOURCES INSAN. :lol:

AND WHY HAVEN'T YOU BEEN ABLE TO ANSWER ANY OF MY QUESTIONS? NO ON SECOND THOUGHTS, STICK TO FYROM WEBSITES :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:30 pm

Nikitas wrote:Oracle,

He has already evaded that difficulty by saying that nobles in ancient Macedonia spoke Greek, like later nobles spoke French! What a nutter!

That is why I asked for a swear word in pur e ancient Macedonian. No matter how well bred they must have sworn in their own language! Which is what I am about to do to Insan!


Nice one! :D
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:32 pm

insan wrote:
Evolution of Macedonian Language.


Then in the ninth century Cyril and Methodius, two Greek monks from Thessaloniki , developed the Cyrillic alphabet and spread both literacy and Christianity to the Slavs.


“The macedonian conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a transnational world” by Loring Danforth

http://books.google.com/books?client=fi ... a=N&tab=wp
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:33 pm

Lit wrote:
insan wrote:
Evolution of Macedonian Language.


Then in the ninth century Cyril and Methodius, two Greek monks from Thessaloniki , developed the Cyrillic alphabet and spread both literacy and Christianity to the Slavs.


“The macedonian conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a transnational world” by Loring Danforth

http://books.google.com/books?client=fi ... a=N&tab=wp


Can they make that link any longer?

Wow
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:37 pm

insan wrote:http://www.soros.org.mk/konkurs/076/angver/makedonski_jazik.html

Evolution of Macedonian Language.



Two Greek brothers from Salonika, Constantine, who later later became a monk and took
the name Cyril, and Methodius came to Great Moravia in 863 at the invitation of the Moravian Prince Rostislav


“Comparative history of Slavic Literatures” by Dmitrij Cizevskij, page vi

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Postby insan » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:41 pm

Greece already recognized Macedonian language in 1920's

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Postby insan » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:43 pm

Revealed Greek documents on Macedonian language from 1920s

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