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Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:56 pm

So what were the Macedonian names? And what about samples of this ancient language that disappeared with no trace?
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:57 pm

insan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Insan,

Do you have any texts from this ancient Macedonina language so we can see what it looked like? Modern macedonian is a Bulgarian dialect with less differences from Bulgarian than Greek Cypriot has from Greek. Are you suggesting that ancient Macedonians spoke slavic?

If Philip was such a heavy duty Macedonian dude why did he have a name made up of two Greek words? Philos and Hippos, Philippos, the lover of horses, and why did he give his son a name also made up two Greek words? Why did all Macedonian generals have Greek names? And why did they never leave even ONE stamp on a coin in any other language than Greek? Surely they wanted the population to have an easy time at least with the coins used in every day exchanges?

Why did Alexander address his subjects urging them to adopt the Greek way of life? Why was Alexander obsessed (to psychotic extremes) with avenging the wrongs of the Persians against the Greeks? Persia did not touch Macedonian soil.

The so called conquest of Greece by Alexander is a nonsense. He called on Greek city states to join in a unified campaign. The Spartans did not join and they were not punished or attacked in any way.

Except for FYROM sources, do you have any other reliable source for your spoutings?



3) "Macedonians had Greek names"

GREEK CLAIM: "Macedonians had Greek names All the ancient Macedonian names mentioned in history or found on tombs are Greek. All the kings of Ancient Macedonia had Greek names. Alexander's name is Greek. Philip's name is also Greek".

MACEDONIAN REPLY: The Macedonians did not have Greek names.


You mean the ancients had names like Boris and Trajko? Dude LOL
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:57 pm

Macedonian Language.

http://www.cs.earlham.edu/~dusko/language.html

Macedonian is a South Slavic language divided into two large groups, the western and the eastern Macedonian dialects. The Macedonian literary language was based on the central dialects of Veles, Prilep, and Bitola. The Cyrilic alphabet that the Macedonian language uses, was developed by the Macedonian brothers from Solun (Salonica), St.Cyril and St.Methodius (Sveti Kiril i Metodij), in the IX-th century. It was thought by their disciples (St.Kliment and St.Naum) at a monastery in Ohrid, Macedonia, whence it spread across the Eastern Slavic world.
Although both the Cyrilic and the Roman alphabet are widely known in Macedonia, Cyrilic is predominantly used. Main signs and street names are printed either in Cyrilic script only, or in both alphabets.
Pronounciation: The spelling of Macedonian is phonetically based: almost every word is written exactly as it is pronounced, and every letter of a word is pronounced. The stress accent varies in different situations and only one certain rule can be given - the last syllable of a word is never stressed.

There are 31 letters in the Macedonian alphabet:
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:58 pm

Nikitas wrote:So what were the Macedonian names? And what about samples of this ancient language that disappeared with no trace?


He cant answer. His reply will be another copy and paste job from the FYROM blog.
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Postby Simon » Mon Mar 30, 2009 5:59 pm

THE NAME ALEXANDER:

[quote]The name in English is taken from the Greek name Ἀλέξανδρος (Alexandros). Etymologically, the name is a compound of the Greek verb ἀλέξω (alexw) "to push back","to hold off" and the noun ἀνδρός (andros), genitive of ἀνήρ (anēr) "man". Thus it may be roughly translated as the man who was unbeatable[1].

The earliest attested record of the name is the Mycenaean Greek of the feminine Alexandra, written in Linear B.[2][3]

The name was one of the titles ("epithets") given to the Greek goddess Hera and as such is usually taken to mean "one who comes to save warriors". In the Iliad, the character Paris is known also as Alexander. The name's popularity was spread throughout the Greek world by the military conquests of King Alexander III , commonly known as "Alexander the Great". Most later Alexanders in various countries were directly or indirectly named for him.[/quote]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander



If that isn't Greek, I don't know what is. Insan, all you are doing is exactly what GR was doing, posting from FYROM propaganda sites. WHY DON'T YOU LISTEN TO INDEPENDENT EXPERTS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OizgSfsx ... re=related

BBC DOCUMENTARY

I knew this thread would become clogged up with TCs. :roll:
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Postby Simon » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:02 pm

Insan,

Why were Macedonians allowed to participate in the Olympic games?

Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, and not Macedonian, if they were different?
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Postby Lit » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:03 pm

Simon wrote:Insan, all you are doing is exactly what GR was doing,


How else are the TCs and the GCs going to get along? They have to find something in common, why not let it be the hatred of everything Greek?
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Postby Nikitas » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:07 pm

I am still waiting to see a sample of this ancient language that is supposedly the language of ancient Macedonians.

My grandmother who was Macedonian from Kastoria talked to me in Greek which obviouisly is Macedonian to all but ardent FYROMITES.

And how come they modern FYROMITES resort to the Cyrillic alphabet? Do they not remember their "Macedonian" linguistic roots? Ingrates!
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Postby Simon » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:07 pm

We could go back over all the links Lit posted earlier, from Museums around the world, attesting to the Greek Macedonia, but somehow, I think it would be wasted on these Turks. :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 30, 2009 6:08 pm

I thought this thread was about GR! who as the purveyor of credible evidence, "had" the means to convince the Hellenic world we were all conned!

Why are the Turks being allowed to jump in and post irrelevancies?

The only interesting thing to come out of this is how much and how desperate the Turks are to take up GR!'s banner!

Well done GR! .... Turkify the island why don't you :roll: Fill their void for them!
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