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Unification Happens in Tiers, and NOT by FORCE!

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Unification Happens in Tiers, and NOT by FORCE!

Postby MrH » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:07 pm

Unification happens in tiers, stages, levels (however you may call it), where, in my view, expecting unification to succeed under a Federal type of formula (currently being sought by our leaders) without the Turkish and Greek Cypriots "finding themselves" first is seriously premature. Partition may initially seem like the end of the road, but, in my view, it's the start of future co-operation between two peoples whom have clearly lost their way. Two communities who have been influenced, however you may see it, by the two mainland Greek and Turkish countries.

Partition may actually give the island of Cyprus' Greek and Turkish Cypriots the Opportunity to work with on another as two respected, recognised "Cypriot" republic states. Improve ties, rid those with their deep-dented memories, establish trust and allow the EU to intervene under a different platform as opposed to the decades-old "Conflict of Cyprus" approach. Ask yourself this question: If the Island's partition was made legal in 1974, do you think the island would still be partitioned today? Exactly, of course not. I strongly believe that, if the island had formed two Cypriot Republic states in 1974, by now; after EU entry, decades of closely working together and like how many other nations have naturally succeed in burying their deep-rooted differences, I'm sure the island would have unified without much effort.

I understand that many of you will not agree with this posting, especially those who go by the name of DT, Get Real and Oracle, but, take a moment to think about the basis of a unification being sought by our leaders today and how much of an impossible task it really is for Talat and Christofias. Perhaps we, as Greek and Turkish Cypriots of Cyprus (as we now like to refer to ourselves) should push for alternative options for a "CYPRUS SOLUTION", regardless of how much it may initially appear to go against the Greek-Turkish political grain. We (Turkish Cypriots) will never gain complete Partition, and you (Greek Cypriots) will never gain complete unification the way you want it - that is obvious. Perhaps then, we should take Step 1, work closely as two Cypriot states and then consider unification under a European Union platform in the future - when we are ready?
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:15 pm

I've said it a million times, find a nice plot of land that belongs to you and partition with humanity if you so wish. You're in no place to demand things while sitting on land thats not yours.
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Postby Sotos » Fri Mar 27, 2009 2:20 pm

What doesn't happen by force is partition. You went against this rule so you will suffer for it. We will not allow the thieves to get away with our land.
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Postby MrH » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:08 pm

Sotos,

Parition was cemented when the Greek Military Junta landed 15'000+ Soldiers on the island in 1974 and killed Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and children - trust, if any, was dumped down the toilet. It's a shame that some people are still bent on Domination over their Partner people!

Continue with your unification without two founding states and the rejecting of yet another UN Sponsored plan and you will be re-reading the posts in this forum on your iphone in a desperate search on how to kick start a Confederation process based on two federated-founding Cypriot states - but it will of course be too late.

What a shame!
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:12 pm

MrH wrote:Sotos,

Parition was cemented when the Greek Military Junta landed 15'000+ Soldiers on the island in 1974 and killed Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and children - trust, if any, was dumped down the toilet. It's a shame that some people are still bent on Domination over their Partner people!

Continue with your unification without two founding states and the rejecting of yet another UN Sponsored plan and you will be re-reading the posts in this forum on your iphone in a desperate search on how to kick start a Confederation process based on two federated-founding Cypriot states - but it will of course be too late.

What a shame!


Show me ONE case of a TC being killed in 74 before the Turks invaded!
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:46 pm

DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Sotos,

Parition was cemented when the Greek Military Junta landed 15'000+ Soldiers on the island in 1974 and killed Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and children - trust, if any, was dumped down the toilet. It's a shame that some people are still bent on Domination over their Partner people!

Continue with your unification without two founding states and the rejecting of yet another UN Sponsored plan and you will be re-reading the posts in this forum on your iphone in a desperate search on how to kick start a Confederation process based on two federated-founding Cypriot states - but it will of course be too late.

What a shame!


Show me ONE case of a TC being killed in 74 before the Turks invaded!

No DT, the question you need to ask is what would have happened if they didn't? and please be honest. Have you seen the video of Sampson where he claimed that if Greece came to his aid, he would have thrown the turks in the sea and don't tell me he did not mean TC's. If his position was the same as Makarios and he intended to continue with peaceful negotiation then what was the coup for?
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Postby wallace » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:53 pm

YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Sotos,

Parition was cemented when the Greek Military Junta landed 15'000+ Soldiers on the island in 1974 and killed Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and children - trust, if any, was dumped down the toilet. It's a shame that some people are still bent on Domination over their Partner people!

Continue with your unification without two founding states and the rejecting of yet another UN Sponsored plan and you will be re-reading the posts in this forum on your iphone in a desperate search on how to kick start a Confederation process based on two federated-founding Cypriot states - but it will of course be too late.

What a shame!


Show me ONE case of a TC being killed in 74 before the Turks invaded!

No DT, the question you need to ask is what would have happened if they didn't? and please be honest. Have you seen the video of Sampson where he claimed that if Greece came to his aid, he would have thrown the turks in the sea and don't tell me he did not mean TC's. If his position was the same as Makarios and he intended to continue with peaceful negotiation then what was the coup for?


All speculation Y-Fronts....what would have happened nobody knows. Stop answering questions with questions. Just give a answer to the question were 1 TC was killed before the invasion. Can you do that? :lol: :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:55 pm

wallace wrote:
YFred wrote:
DT. wrote:
MrH wrote:Sotos,

Parition was cemented when the Greek Military Junta landed 15'000+ Soldiers on the island in 1974 and killed Greek and Turkish Cypriot women and children - trust, if any, was dumped down the toilet. It's a shame that some people are still bent on Domination over their Partner people!

Continue with your unification without two founding states and the rejecting of yet another UN Sponsored plan and you will be re-reading the posts in this forum on your iphone in a desperate search on how to kick start a Confederation process based on two federated-founding Cypriot states - but it will of course be too late.

What a shame!


Show me ONE case of a TC being killed in 74 before the Turks invaded!

No DT, the question you need to ask is what would have happened if they didn't? and please be honest. Have you seen the video of Sampson where he claimed that if Greece came to his aid, he would have thrown the turks in the sea and don't tell me he did not mean TC's. If his position was the same as Makarios and he intended to continue with peaceful negotiation then what was the coup for?


All speculation Y-Fronts....what would have happened nobody knows. Stop answering questions with questions. Just give a answer to the question were 1 TC was killed before the invasion. Can you do that? :lol: :lol:


mirror mirror on the wall who is the bullshiter of them all :lol:
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 27, 2009 3:58 pm

funnily enough, I never get tht question answered :(
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 27, 2009 4:02 pm

Sweet Dreams.

Mirror, don't make me laugh. If you lot looked in the mirror, it would shatter to a million pieces.
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