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Re: Weekly Honour Killings in Istanbul .....

Postby Tim Drayton » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:40 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:I had not realised Turkish grammar was the issue. Are you an expert on 'Kıbrıslıca'? No. I rest my case.


a man without a mothertongue. how sad.


Ha ha haaa. I can teach you Turkish and Ottoman Turkish if need be. Arabic as well if you like.


Can you speak Arabic too?
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Re: Weekly Honour Killings in Istanbul .....

Postby runaway » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:44 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
runaway wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I had not realised Turkish grammar was the issue. Are you an expert on 'Kıbrıslıca'? No. I rest my case.


a man without a mothertongue. how sad.


Ha ha haaa. I can teach you Turkish and Ottoman Turkish if need be. Arabic as well if you like.


Yeah you already taught me a new version of Turkish which I haven't heard in my life. I want to thank you for the experience.
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Postby wallace » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:45 pm

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turkkan wrote:I love the way every GC considers themselves an expert on every issue turkey has. Honour killing is nearly 100% a sunni kurdish phenomenon in turkey and one confined to the extreme SE at that. .


thanks Turkkan. Another slap on the ugly face of the ignorant gc woman.


Fuck Off mongolian invader :lol: :lol:


you fuck off dumb donkey


I'll tell you what......recognise the Armenian genocide...accept all UN resolutions against you plonkers...move your invading force back to Turkey=Fascist State....let the Cypriots life in peace and accept human rights and a few other things and than I might consider fucking off and might even dress like a dumb donkey :lol: :lol: Untill then just piss off from this forum.....you are useless :D :D
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Postby runaway » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:51 pm

wallace wrote:
runaway wrote:
wallace wrote:
runaway wrote:
turkkan wrote:I love the way every GC considers themselves an expert on every issue turkey has. Honour killing is nearly 100% a sunni kurdish phenomenon in turkey and one confined to the extreme SE at that. .


thanks Turkkan. Another slap on the ugly face of the ignorant gc woman.


Fuck Off mongolian invader :lol: :lol:


you fuck off dumb donkey


I'll tell you what......recognise the Armenian genocide...accept all UN resolutions against you plonkers...move your invading force back to Turkey=Fascist State....let the Cypriots life in peace and accept human rights and a few other things and than I might consider fucking off and might even dress like a dumb donkey :lol: :lol: Untill then just piss off from this forum.....you are useless :D :D


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Postby turkkan » Fri Mar 27, 2009 5:57 pm

Really? ... that may be the easy way to say it is not Turkey's problem, but the present day figures suggest otherwise ...

Ending up in Istanbul, the team finds that even the most modernised city in Turkey hasn't escaped the tradition. According to a government report, it now has one of the highest levels of honour killings in the country, with one happening every week.

Either the Kurds are Turks, or give them back their country; but don't try and blame the Kurds for what is wrong with Turkey ....


Not one person here has ever said its not turkeys problem. Infact in my first post in this thread i stated quite categorically that the reason this problem still exists in the SE is because of the fault of successive goverments in turkey who ignore the issue in the SE in exchange for political support from clan leaders. We all said that the number of cases throughout the decades has gone from being a common practise to one where it becomes headlines if it actually occurs. THat to you is of no relevance of course. You choose to ignore all this and go on your own predictable boring tangent which is turkey is guilty no matter what- as if you have done any research on this issue at all and you now feel you know where to put the blame.
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Re: Weekly Honour Killings in Istanbul .....

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:53 pm

runaway wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
runaway wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I had not realised Turkish grammar was the issue. Are you an expert on 'Kıbrıslıca'? No. I rest my case.


a man without a mothertongue. how sad.


Ha ha haaa. I can teach you Turkish and Ottoman Turkish if need be. Arabic as well if you like.


Yeah you already taught me a new version of Turkish which I haven't heard in my life. I want to thank you for the experience.


Be my guest.
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Re: Weekly Honour Killings in Istanbul .....

Postby denizaksulu » Fri Mar 27, 2009 7:59 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
runaway wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:I had not realised Turkish grammar was the issue. Are you an expert on 'Kıbrıslıca'? No. I rest my case.


a man without a mothertongue. how sad.


Ha ha haaa. I can teach you Turkish and Ottoman Turkish if need be. Arabic as well if you like.


Can you speak Arabic too?


Sorry Tim. I found out I do not speak Turkish or Arabic. :oops:
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:11 pm

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Really? ... that may be the easy way to say it is not Turkey's problem, but the present day figures suggest otherwise ...

Ending up in Istanbul, the team finds that even the most modernised city in Turkey hasn't escaped the tradition. According to a government report, it now has one of the highest levels of honour killings in the country, with one happening every week.

Either the Kurds are Turks, or give them back their country; but don't try and blame the Kurds for what is wrong with Turkey ....


Not one person here has ever said its not turkeys problem. Infact in my first post in this thread i stated quite categorically that the reason this problem still exists in the SE is because of the fault of successive goverments in turkey who ignore the issue in the SE in exchange for political support from clan leaders. We all said that the number of cases throughout the decades has gone from being a common practise to one where it becomes headlines if it actually occurs. THat to you is of no relevance of course. You choose to ignore all this and go on your own predictable boring tangent which is turkey is guilty no matter what- as if you have done any research on this issue at all and you now feel you know where to put the blame.


So you are saying Turkey is NOT guilty?

Turkkan ... whose responsibility is this, to alleviate? By saying it's only a problem in the SE of Turkey, do you think that absolves Turkey of responsibility?

And as the article stated, there is one per week in Istanbul ... whose responsibility should that become?

By saying it's just the Kurds ... you are being hypocritical because the Kurds, according to your regime, are part of Turkey.

(BTW I appreciate your more civilised posts. :wink: )
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Postby Oracle » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:22 am

Well the presenters touched on the Political expediency this presents for the Turkish government to keep the Kurds impoverished and stuck further back into the Middle ages than the average Turk ....

The Kurdish men are clearly "castrated" by Turkey. Left feeling inadequate at their lack of self-determination. So, self-esteem at an all time low, they take it out on their women! :(

Turkish atrocities of the most tormenting kind .....
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Postby denizaksulu » Sat Mar 28, 2009 12:35 am

Oracle wrote:Well the presenters touched on the Political expediency this presents for the Turkish government to keep the Kurds impoverished and stuck further back into the Middle ages than the average Turk ....

The Kurdish men are clearly "castrated" by Turkey. Left feeling inadequate at their lack of self-determination. So, self-esteem at an all time low, they take it out on their women! :(

Turkish atrocities of the most tormenting kind .....



I will tend to disagree with your interpretation for what you viewed and heard. The editing was poor. On four occasions what was said in Turkish and what was translated had no connection. Perhaps that WAS the bad editing. To blame the Tore (Honour killing) on to the Turkish gov is a bit harsh. The people themselves need the education. It was obvious that the men wanted the complete subordination of their women folk. The only way to change the mind set of these people is to chop their heads off. Then you would still find Turkey at fault.

It is still sad.
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