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[MrH]

.....The Big question on Cyprus is this:

Would the Greek Cypriots accept a complete return to the ORIGINAL 1960 constitution of Cyprus affairs if the Turkish Cypriots called for it?


It is important to take into consideration the following before answering:

1) The Return to the 1960 Constitution of affairs would mean that Makarios' 10 Additional Changes (of 1963) would NOT be included.

2) As we all know that Makarios argued extensively for the Principle of Self-Determination to be applied to Cyprus when it was under British Rule, let it be clear to all that any amendment to the ORIGINAL Cyprus Constitution would be clearly seen as an attempt in safeguarding and ultimately linking Cyprus to Greece (as one of its "Greek" entities) - As has happened in the current Greek Cypriot Administered Republic of Cyprus today.

3) And, that the Two "Partner" communities of the island are the Greek and Turkish Cypriots, with their original President/Vice President rights, undiminished. And, that the "Smaller Religious Groups" (as expressed in the Original Republic of Cyprus Constitution) represent the Armenian, Maronite's and Latin people ONLY - And Not the Turkish Cypriot people as how the Greek Cypriots are now trying to falsely portray by relentlessly deeming them as a "Minority".

4) Finally, that all the elements and articles of the Zurich agreement, including the Treaty of Guarantee, and so fourth, be fully reinstated.

[DT.]

The answer is no, primarily because Turkey has breached the treaty of guarantee and cannot be trusted with it again.

[halil]

.....The Big question on Cyprus is this:

Would the Greek Cypriots accept a complete return to the ORIGINAL 1960 constitution of Cyprus affairs if the Turkish Cypriots called for it?


It is important to take into consideration the following before answering:

1) The Return to the 1960 Constitution of affairs would mean that Makarios' 10 Additional Changes (of 1963) would NOT be included.

2) As we all know that Makarios argued extensively for the Principle of Self-Determination to be applied to Cyprus when it was under British Rule, let it be clear to all that any amendment to the ORIGINAL Cyprus Constitution would be clearly seen as an attempt in safeguarding and ultimately linking Cyprus to Greece (as one of its "Greek" entities) - As has happened in the current Greek Cypriot Administered Republic of Cyprus today.

3) And, that the Two "Partner" communities of the island are the Greek and Turkish Cypriots, with their original President/Vice President rights, undiminished. And, that the "Smaller Religious Groups" (as expressed in the Original Republic of Cyprus Constitution) represent the Armenian, Maronite's and Latin people ONLY - And Not the Turkish Cypriot people as how the Greek Cypriots are now trying to falsely portray by relentlessly deeming them as a "Minority".

4) Finally, that all the elements and articles of the Zurich agreement, including the Treaty of Guarantee, and so fourth, be fully reinstated.

How the Cyprus problem started in 1963 .... it was the bloody ideas of Makarios 10 points .... greedy man !!!! he shit on everything ....

[wyoming cowboy]

Its 13 points, The 1960 conp[rstitution is good enough. However, the veto of the vp should only be used when the civil rights of the Turk cyp are being violated, as it was implied to be used, not to control the Greek cyp majority...The 13 points if you have ever read them, do not take away civil rights from the Turk cyps. It was implemented in order that the republic would function more fluidly..In exchange for the Turkish guarantee Cyprus should join Nato

[CBBB]

I don't think the EU would be able to accept the 1960 constitution. The UN would probably have problems with it as well.

[Bananiot]

If it was possible, a hundred times yes.

[kurupetos]

Easy answer: NO! Why readopt something that failed?

As I said two years ago the consitution should remove all dividing clauses in order to work!

No veto, no guarantors, no UKSBAs, no foreign military on Cyprus except UN.

A joint GC/TC police force and military.

A federal system without deviations from the EU acquis.

Then, yes this will be an everlasting, democratic, operational solution.

[MrH]

You mean the following:

Points 3 and 10 are the parts (well, at least two) that first kicked it all off for the Turkish Cypriots, I guess!


1. The right of veto of the President and the Vice-President of the Republic to be abandoned.

2. The Vice-President of the Republic to deputise for the President of the Republic in case of his temporary absence or in capacity to perform his duties.

3. The Greek President of the House of Representatives and the Turkish Vice-President to be elected by the House as a whole and not as at present the President by the Greek Members of the House and the Vice-President by the Turkish Members of the House.

4. The Vice-President of the House of Representatives to deputise for the President of the House in case of his temporary absence or incapacity to perform his duties.

5. The constitutional provisions regarding separate majorities for enactment of certain laws by the House of Representatives to be abolished.

6. Unified Municipalities to be established.

7. The administration of Justice to be unified.

8. The division of the Security Forces into Police and Gendarmerie to be abolished.

9. The numerical strength of the Security Forces and of the Defence Forces to be determined by a Law.

10. The proportion of the participation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the composition of the Public Service and the Forces of the Republic to be modified in proportion to the ratio of the population of Greek and Turkish-Cypriots.

11. The number of the Members of the Public Service Commission to be reduced from ten to five.

12. All decisions of the Public Service Commission to be taken by simple majority.

13. The Greek Communal Chamber to be abolished.


Smooth Running! I don't think so! Point 10 in particular is a clear indication of Greek Cypriot "Majority" dominance of the Turkish Cypriots.

[paliometoxo]

.....The Big question on Cyprus is this:

Would the Greek Cypriots accept a complete return to the ORIGINAL 1960 constitution of Cyprus affairs if the Turkish Cypriots called for it?


It is important to take into consideration the following before answering:

1) The Return to the 1960 Constitution of affairs would mean that Makarios' 10 Additional Changes (of 1963) would NOT be included.

2) As we all know that Makarios argued extensively for the Principle of Self-Determination to be applied to Cyprus when it was under British Rule, let it be clear to all that any amendment to the ORIGINAL Cyprus Constitution would be clearly seen as an attempt in safeguarding and ultimately linking Cyprus to Greece (as one of its "Greek" entities) - As has happened in the current Greek Cypriot Administered Republic of Cyprus today.

3) And, that the Two "Partner" communities of the island are the Greek and Turkish Cypriots, with their original President/Vice President rights, undiminished. And, that the "Smaller Religious Groups" (as expressed in the Original Republic of Cyprus Constitution) represent the Armenian, Maronite's and Latin people ONLY - And Not the Turkish Cypriot people as how the Greek Cypriots are now trying to falsely portray by relentlessly deeming them as a "Minority".

4) Finally, that all the elements and articles of the Zurich agreement, including the Treaty of Guarantee, and so fourth, be fully reinstated.

How the Cyprus problem started in 1963 .... it was the bloody ideas of Makarios 10 points .... greedy man !!!! he shit on everything ....

the cyprus problem started long before 1963... it started when the ottomans came killing thousands of greek cypriots as well as catholics.. for what reason? they have no excuse for this.

[Get Real!]

Cyprus doesn’t need any military guarantees from foreigners, given her 14,000 strong National Guard and 90,000 strong reservists that could easily increase to around 20,000 soldiers and 150,000 reservists if TCs, Armenians, and Maronites were to be included as they should. That’s more than enough to deter most adventurers from wondering in this direction with bad intentions.