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The BIG Question on Cyprus

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby insan » Thu Mar 26, 2009 7:26 pm

Jerry wrote:
insan wrote:
Jerry wrote:NO

The 1960 Constitution did not create a sovereign State since it "legally" allowed other States to interfere in its business.

It was not democratic, some of its citizens votes were worth more than others.

Solution

Arbitration, ask a body such as the EHCR to appoint a commission to write a new constitution.

Guess what - Turkey would never agree such a move because it's a fair and just way to solve the problem.


We well know what u call fair... Giving TCs a minority status... In most of the ex-Ottoman lands Turks accepted to be a minority. In some of them they fought for freedom and established their seperate states and in some others they managed to have autonomous government.

In Cyprus, TCs have been struggling not to be a minority for more than 100 years. Our priority has always been a common state based on political eaquality of 2 communities which was determined by western alliance; according to the feasibility, balance of powers and stability of western alliance.

In age of globalization one state is either in alliance or not. If u chose to be in alliance, either by joining EU or NATO or both; it requires u to contribute the interests of alliance.

In western alliance, while right wing political parties and interest groups have an aspiration to contribute all kinds of capitalistic interests of alliance; left wing political parties and interests groups usually r against most of the approachments and plans of right wing ideology.

In such a case, the dominant right wing political parties and interest groups begin pressurizing the left wing political parties and interest groups and the situation is labeled as an interference to internal affairs by left wing. However it's not an internal affair, it's an international affair that is binded with the interests of big bosses of globalizing world. Only a left wing political party can label the situation as an interference to internal affairs.

In our region, Turks and Hellenes must reconcile and establish a sub alliance based on economic, militaristic and socio-cultural elements. That's what primarily US and most of the other NATO states push 2 countries for...

Under such a circumstance, I'm sure we can share the legislative and judicial powers equally without any fears of each other and fierce rivalry that might cause inter-communal or international strives.


Go back to school and pay attention in arithmetic lessons, 18% is a minority. You don't allow Kurds or Armenians equal community status in Turkey, why should you be treated differently in Cyprus.

The rest of your post is incomprehensible gibberish to me, I can't be bothered to try and understand it.


Ok, then keep deadlocking ur little brain with infeasible dreams. :lol: I highly recommend u to enhance the capability of comprehension of ur lil brain. :lol:
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:14 pm

insan wrote:In Cyprus, TCs have been struggling not to be a minority for more than 100 years.

With the advent of human cloning you can cut back on the inbreeding now... 8)
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Postby Oracle » Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:19 pm

Do we have to continue amusing these TCs, as though we cared what they had to say .... :roll: 8)
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Postby Byron » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:16 am

There is no need to return to the Cyprus Constitution of 1960, it is already been applied by the Cyprus Republic and member of the EU.

It is the Turkish cypriot minority that has chosen to relinquish its constitutional participation through the illegal occupation of approx 33% of the Cyprus Republic !
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Postby wyoming cowboy » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:25 am

And who is to say that they wont relinquish their constitutional participation in the next solution..The reason the UN will not recognize them is that they were in an agreement with the Greekcyp that they stepped on 4 years after signing.
Byron wrote:There is no need to return to the Cyprus Constitution of 1960, it is already been applied by the Cyprus Republic and member of the EU.

It is the Turkish cypriot minority that has chosen to relinquish its constitutional participation through the illegal occupation of approx 33% of the Cyprus Republic !
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Postby Byron » Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:31 am

Hey Cowboy - What solution are you talking about ??
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:22 am

Byron wrote:There is no need to return to the Cyprus Constitution of 1960, it is already been applied by the Cyprus Republic and member of the EU.

It is the Turkish cypriot minority that has chosen to relinquish its constitutional participation through the illegal occupation of approx 33% of the Cyprus Republic !


I see nothing wrong with occupying 35% of Cyprus as a counter act to Greeks occupying 2/3 of my homeland and converting RoC into a Greek Republic by arts and wiles of politics. "They" let u do it just to keep Greece in Nato for the great interests of Western Alliance on Balkans. Balkans have almost been fixed. Now it's turn for middle east. Now time to satisfy Turkish demands. First attempt was Annan Plan but failed. Be sure of that next attempt will be the official partition of Cyprus; like it or not. :D
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Postby Get Real! » Fri Mar 27, 2009 1:27 am

insan wrote:Be sure of that next attempt will be the official partition of Cyprus; like it or not. :D

Without a full technical explanation of how such a scenario can come about via international law, it is nothing but an empty fart. Kindly refrain from farting in the CyProb section thank you...
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Postby utu » Fri Mar 27, 2009 9:57 pm

If only the "Big Question" on Cyprus was the question of where Ouzo originated from...
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 27, 2009 10:29 pm

wyoming cowboy wrote:Its 13 points, The 1960 conp[rstitution is good enough. However, the veto of the vp should only be used when the civil rights of the Turk cyp are being violated, as it was implied to be used, not to control the Greek cyp majority...The 13 points if you have ever read them, do not take away civil rights from the Turk cyps. It was implemented in order that the republic would function more fluidly..In exchange for the Turkish guarantee Cyprus should join Nato


So, had that GC majority wished to annex Cyprus with Greece, TC would have to obbey them. According to ur logic, had the population ratio of 2 communities been almost 50/50; the republic would never have had a possibility to function more fluidly because TCs have had absolute political equality to control GC community. :lol:
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