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[YFred]

A Federal Republic also means that the central government would have to be controlled by the Gc, total freedom of movement, no restrictions of Gc living in the Tc state

The bottom line to the problem in Cyprus can best be described in these words...Hippocrates the ancient Greek doctor, once said, ".Most ailments can easily be cured but the patients refuse to take their medicine"..The Turkish Cypriots have to come to terms with a Federated Cyprus, which literally means one man one vote..The Greek cypriots have to give up on the idea of getting all their lands back ,compensation or exchange for whoever doesnt go back is the bitterness of the medicine. Like Talat said today this agony of the Cyprus problem will continue forever,with no solution. All laws and rights to be upheld to the standard of the European Union.

You are almost there WC. TCs will accept a federal structure one man one vote. The question is how? not to leave a door open for some crazy GCs to take control like last time.

Its a matter of percentage of land for the federal structure and how may GCs will come over the north. I strongly suspect that allocation allowed for the GCs to move to the north will not be taken up and will prefer compensation if the compensation level was current prices, you can't be fairer than that.

Then all the TCs will be calling for the TA to leave if they hadn't gone yet and I can go freely to Lurucina without having to show my ID card.

WC, we are trying to jump and we haven't started crawling yet. One step at a time. It will get there eventually.

[Viewpoint]

A Federal Republic also means that the central government would have to be controlled by the Gc, total freedom of movement, no restrictions of Gc living in the Tc state

The bottom line to the problem in Cyprus can best be described in these words...Hippocrates the ancient Greek doctor, once said, ".Most ailments can easily be cured but the patients refuse to take their medicine"..The Turkish Cypriots have to come to terms with a Federated Cyprus, which literally means one man one vote..The Greek cypriots have to give up on the idea of getting all their lands back ,compensation or exchange for whoever doesnt go back is the bitterness of the medicine. Like Talat said today this agony of the Cyprus problem will continue forever,with no solution. All laws and rights to be upheld to the standard of the European Union.

You are almost there WC. TCs will accept a federal structure one man one vote. The question is how? not to leave a door open for some crazy GCs to take control like last time.

Its a matter of percentage of land for the federal structure and how may GCs will come over the north. I strongly suspect that allocation allowed for the GCs to move to the north will not be taken up and will prefer compensation if the compensation level was current prices, you can't be fairer than that.

Then all the TCs will be calling for the TA to leave if they hadn't gone yet and I can go freely to Lurucina without having to show my ID card.

I agree with most of what you have to say but would like to hear your take on how the structure would be formed and what the TCs role would be in the federal makeup, eg how much land for the TC state and how you propose power shraing a the federal level.

[wyoming cowboy]

I would urge you to read the constitution of the United States. Obviously there would be some minor changes but the structure would be similar.

A Federal Republic also means that the central government would have to be controlled by the Gc, total freedom of movement, no restrictions of Gc living in the Tc state

The bottom line to the problem in Cyprus can best be described in these words...Hippocrates the ancient Greek doctor, once said, ".Most ailments can easily be cured but the patients refuse to take their medicine"..The Turkish Cypriots have to come to terms with a Federated Cyprus, which literally means one man one vote..The Greek cypriots have to give up on the idea of getting all their lands back ,compensation or exchange for whoever doesnt go back is the bitterness of the medicine. Like Talat said today this agony of the Cyprus problem will continue forever,with no solution. All laws and rights to be upheld to the standard of the European Union.

You are almost there WC. TCs will accept a federal structure one man one vote. The question is how? not to leave a door open for some crazy GCs to take control like last time.

Its a matter of percentage of land for the federal structure and how may GCs will come over the north. I strongly suspect that allocation allowed for the GCs to move to the north will not be taken up and will prefer compensation if the compensation level was current prices, you can't be fairer than that.

Then all the TCs will be calling for the TA to leave if they hadn't gone yet and I can go freely to Lurucina without having to show my ID card.

I agree with most of what you have to say but would like to hear your take on how the structure would be formed and what the TCs role would be in the federal makeup, eg how much land for the TC state and how you propose power shraing a the federal level.

[wyoming cowboy]

Lets be constructive for once instead of hurling insults at one another Maybe we will all learn something from each other.

The Federal Governments Powers:
Levy taxes in both states equally
Postal services
Air ports and marine ports
Immigration
Raise an army securtiy
Raise taxes for highways infrastructure federal buildings etc.
Borrow Money for the United Cyprus
Prosecute for federal crimes
Anything which affects the United cyprus

[DT.]

Lets be constructive for once instead of hurling insults at one another Maybe we will all learn something from each other.

The Federal Governments Powers:
Levy taxes in both states equally
Postal services
Air ports and marine ports
Immigration
Raise an army securtiy
Raise taxes for highways infrastructure federal buildings etc.
Borrow Money for the United Cyprus
Prosecute for federal crimes
Anything which affects the United cyprus

If you first define whether the 2 states are a turkish and greek state or a northern and southern state then everything will be much easier afterwards.

[Viewpoint]

I would urge you to read the constitution of the United States. Obviously there would be some minor changes but the structure would be similar.

A Federal Republic also means that the central government would have to be controlled by the Gc, total freedom of movement, no restrictions of Gc living in the Tc state

The bottom line to the problem in Cyprus can best be described in these words...Hippocrates the ancient Greek doctor, once said, ".Most ailments can easily be cured but the patients refuse to take their medicine"..The Turkish Cypriots have to come to terms with a Federated Cyprus, which literally means one man one vote..The Greek cypriots have to give up on the idea of getting all their lands back ,compensation or exchange for whoever doesnt go back is the bitterness of the medicine. Like Talat said today this agony of the Cyprus problem will continue forever,with no solution. All laws and rights to be upheld to the standard of the European Union.

You are almost there WC. TCs will accept a federal structure one man one vote. The question is how? not to leave a door open for some crazy GCs to take control like last time.

Its a matter of percentage of land for the federal structure and how may GCs will come over the north. I strongly suspect that allocation allowed for the GCs to move to the north will not be taken up and will prefer compensation if the compensation level was current prices, you can't be fairer than that.

Then all the TCs will be calling for the TA to leave if they hadn't gone yet and I can go freely to Lurucina without having to show my ID card.

I agree with most of what you have to say but would like to hear your take on how the structure would be formed and what the TCs role would be in the federal makeup, eg how much land for the TC state and how you propose power shraing a the federal level.

Please define your version as the US version will not be 100% applicable to Cyprus due to its uniqueness. Allowing that everone cna move around and settle where ever they wish whether it be the north or south states.

[wyoming cowboy]

For the sake of argument lets call our states North and south

Lets be constructive for once instead of hurling insults at one another Maybe we will all learn something from each other.

The Federal Governments Powers:
Levy taxes in both states equally
Postal services
Air ports and marine ports
Immigration
Raise an army securtiy
Raise taxes for highways infrastructure federal buildings etc.
Borrow Money for the United Cyprus
Prosecute for federal crimes
Anything which affects the United cyprus

If you first define whether the 2 states are a turkish and greek state or a northern and southern state then everything will be much easier afterwards.

[wyoming cowboy]

Things individual constituent states cannot do:
Enter into treaty with another country
cannot impose import export taxes
cannot raise an army
all rights guaranteed by constitution cannot be taken away by state
no suspension of habeu corpus
cannot impose taxes or fees when crossing state lines
cannot raise an army or attack the other state
Obligated to follow the laws interpreted by the supreme court of a united cyprus and european union

These are basically the only things that the individual constituent states cannot do