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[DT.]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

[Viewpoint]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

[Kikapu]

What I reject is clear violations of ANYONES Democratic and Human Rights. Show me where the EU and the UN has violated any of those rights to the TC's during these recent talks on BBF proposals that I have refused to defend the TC's.!

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

Most of tyour other arguments regarding the EU/UN were silly, so no point in trying to respond to them, but I would like to on the above quote that you made.

Can you tell me what Racist and Undemocratic things that the GC's are demanding from the EU/UN that you feel it will be justified in rejecting them, because if there are such demands by the GC's, I will join you in rejecting them also, so please tell us what those Democratic and Human Rights violations are, that it is asked by the GC's to be imposed on the TC's by the EU and UN.

Our community rights.

Guarantees.

I did not know such things fall under the EU/UN Democratic and Human Rights violation.!

They could be interpreted as being "Minority Rights" perhaps, because I have never heard of the EU or UN ever using the terms "Community Rights" as being one of the Pillars of Democracy. Do we even know what those "community rights" are. What I mean is, if something was negotiated in the 1960 Constitution between the parties at that time, and another Constitution may be negotiated today between the parties, what TC's Human Rights are being violated by the GC's if they do not want to agree with any provisions from the past. The UN/EU are not demanding these "community rights" for the TC's, because they are not rights that are being violated, but only if offered by one side and accepted by the other side. Same goes with the Guarantees. Sorry, VP, but your above examples do not fall under the umbrella of the EU's or the UN's definition of Democratic and Human Rights violations. Perhaps I'm wrong and that CopperLine can set me straight.!

[DT.]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

[Viewpoint]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

Obviously you do not know what we demand, go study and come back in a few days.

[Viewpoint]

What I reject is clear violations of ANYONES Democratic and Human Rights. Show me where the EU and the UN has violated any of those rights to the TC's during these recent talks on BBF proposals that I have refused to defend the TC's.!

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

Most of tyour other arguments regarding the EU/UN were silly, so no point in trying to respond to them, but I would like to on the above quote that you made.

Can you tell me what Racist and Undemocratic things that the GC's are demanding from the EU/UN that you feel it will be justified in rejecting them, because if there are such demands by the GC's, I will join you in rejecting them also, so please tell us what those Democratic and Human Rights violations are, that it is asked by the GC's to be imposed on the TC's by the EU and UN.

Our community rights.

Guarantees.

I did not know such things fall under the EU/UN Democratic and Human Rights violation.!

They could be interpreted as being "Minority Rights" perhaps, because I have never heard of the EU or UN ever using the terms "Community Rights" as being one of the Pillars of Democracy. Do we even know what those "community rights" are. What I mean is, if something was negotiated in the 1960 Constitution between the parties at that time, and another Constitution may be negotiated today between the parties, what TC's Human Rights are being violated by the GC's if they do not want to agree with any provisions from the past. The UN/EU are not demanding these "community rights" for the TC's, because they are not rights that are being violated, but only if offered by one side and accepted by the other side. Same goes with the Guarantees. Sorry, VP, but your above examples do not fall under the umbrella of the EU's or the UN's definition of Democratic and Human Rights violations. Perhaps I'm wrong and that CopperLine can set me straight.!

Do you believe that the UN and EU would accept or back a solution that would be against democracy and human rights?

Are the 1960 agreements valid?

Do they provide both community with rights?

Do they contains security guarantees?

Or have thse agreements been scraped in which case the "RoC" would not exist.

[DT.]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

Obviously you do not know what we demand, go study and come back in a few days.

Do you accept freedom of settlement?

[Viewpoint]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

Obviously you do not know what we demand, go study and come back in a few days.

Do you accept freedom of settlement?

YES

[DT.]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

Obviously you do not know what we demand, go study and come back in a few days.

Do you accept freedom of settlement?

YES

Ah I see...you allow them to settle but will not allow them to vote where they live.

[Viewpoint]

Do we alsohave the right to reject anything the EU and UN try to impose on us if we feel it is undemocratic and racist yet meets GC demands?

This is what you quoted. Please answer Kiks question about what racist or undemocratic demands we have made.

We feel being the ultimate words, the GCs seem to think that because they do not like what the EU and UN support eg the AP it is undemocratic and against their human rights. You people need to learn there are many shades of democracy as administered by different countries they vary according to the history and sociological structure of the country concerned. It is for this reason that we TCs will not give away our community rights to become just another minority under your GC admnistered "democracy" we are partners and want to be treated as such we demand an effective and guaranteed say in our own future.

Name me one federation or confederation where they demand ethnically clean constituent states.

Obviously you do not know what we demand, go study and come back in a few days.

Do you accept freedom of settlement?

YES

Ah I see...you allow them to settle but will not allow them to vote where they live.

Go do some more research you obvously have pre-concieved bised ideas about TC demands, you are not to be taken seriously.