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[wyoming cowboy]

if Cyprus entered Nato one would think that Turkey would have to remove her troops...There is a charter in Nato which states that one member could not attack another, basically whats kept Greece and Turkey from attacking one another, therefore how could one Nato member be illegally occuppying another..Guarantee rights would be eliminated and Cyprus would be under enormous pressure to keep its population happy Greek and Turkish...Uncle Sam would make sure of that

NATO membership would alienate RoC from other forces such as Russia, China, etc. that recently gained a lot of power.

Moreover it would not put pressure on Turkey to remove her troops from RoC. On the contrary, stupid things like guarantor rights would be reinforced since RoT would argue that her troops are twice legitimately on Cypriot ground.

[Sotos]

Lastly, the greeks puting the blame on turkey is nothing new, they will place it on everyone but themselves (bar the typical retort of a few extremists who were anyhow not as bad as the turkish one), the issue is who is listening and who gives a rats ass after 35 years but them?

And how can we I have any blame for the Turkish expansionism against our island? The Turks invaded Cyprus twice one in 1570 and one in 1974 and after each invasion they kill 1000s of Cypriots, occupy our lands and bring their Turkish Settlers and give to them lands that they steal from us. If it wasn't for the Turkish expansionism against us there would be no Turkish invasions, no Turks in Cyprus and no Cyprus Problem.

[kurupetos]

if Cyprus entered Nato one would think that Turkey would have to remove her troops...There is a charter in Nato which states that one member could not attack another, basically whats kept Greece and Turkey from attacking one another, therefore how could one Nato member be illegally occuppying another..Guarantee rights would be eliminated and Cyprus would be under enormous pressure to keep its population happy Greek and Turkish...Uncle Sam would make sure of that

NATO membership would alienate RoC from other forces such as Russia, China, etc. that recently gained a lot of power.

Moreover it would not put pressure on Turkey to remove her troops from RoC. On the contrary, stupid things like guarantor rights would be reinforced since RoT would argue that her troops are twice legitimately on Cypriot ground.

Is that why Turkey caused the Imia incident in 1996?
Is that why Turkey violates continuously the Greek airspace?
Is that why Turkey issued a casus belli statement to prevent oil extraction in the Aegean sea?
Will Turkey ever comply with the numerous UN resolutions?

Who would put pressure on Turkey to remove her troops? USA? UK? The countries that orchestrated the Turkish invasion of 1974.

[wyoming cowboy]

Of all the things that have happenned between Greece and Turkey, never once has either side passed a UN resolution against one another, none of the events you mentioned above have led to war.

[kurupetos]

Of all the things that have happenned between Greece and Turkey, never once has either side passed a UN resolution against one another, none of the events you mentioned above have led to war.

Do u realise the meaning of casus belli?

[Kikapu]

Insan, it dosent matter what he wants the ROC can simply not join it without bypassing turkeys veto. It just wont happen. All he can do is get rejected which he wont. Hes going to stick to the line that ideologically he is against it. If there was a small chance that the ROC could enter it im sure he would consider the membership although im not sure how he would sell it but given that it dosent exist this is all BS talk.

Canadian Defense Minister asks for change in NATO consensus on admitting new members

March 8, 2009


Canadian Defense Minister Peter McCay has asked NATO to change the concept on accession of new members, because of recent problems the Alliance has experienced with Macedonia and Croatia.

At a meeting with his US counterpart Robert Gates in Washington, McCay asked NATO to revise the article for consensus in order to avoid any possible failures due to bilateral issues, such as those between Greece and Macedonia and Slovenia and Croatia, which result in blocking the Alliance while admitting new members.

McCay suggests the present system to be replaced with a new system where at least two countries must object the accession of a new member, which means Greece will no longer be able to prevent Macedonia from joining NATO.http://www.mhrmi.org/news/2009/march08_e.asp



Never say never...

So which country is going to team up with Turkey to prevent Cyprus from becoming a NATO member, if the above proposal goes through.?

[kurupetos]

Good point Kikapu. But under the current RoC commie leadership I would have to say Cyprus!

[DT.]

As usual, the spokesman for the occupation regime is in a field of cow dung and Halil is sharing it with the rest of us.

CYprus is not even planning to join the Partnership for Peace because most of its members are in NaTO. There is an ideological problem for CHristofias but that is besides the point. His main issue is that he doesn't want to be put in direct confrontation with Turkey if he can avoid it. FOrcing Turkey to veto an application will be just as much his fault for applying as Turkeys for vetoeing. I don't expect some of our "lighter" members to understand this but there you are.

[insan]

Insan, it dosent matter what he wants the ROC can simply not join it without bypassing turkeys veto. It just wont happen. All he can do is get rejected which he wont. Hes going to stick to the line that ideologically he is against it. If there was a small chance that the ROC could enter it im sure he would consider the membership although im not sure how he would sell it but given that it dosent exist this is all BS talk.

Canadian Defense Minister asks for change in NATO consensus on admitting new members

March 8, 2009


Canadian Defense Minister Peter McCay has asked NATO to change the concept on accession of new members, because of recent problems the Alliance has experienced with Macedonia and Croatia.

At a meeting with his US counterpart Robert Gates in Washington, McCay asked NATO to revise the article for consensus in order to avoid any possible failures due to bilateral issues, such as those between Greece and Macedonia and Slovenia and Croatia, which result in blocking the Alliance while admitting new members.

McCay suggests the present system to be replaced with a new system where at least two countries must object the accession of a new member, which means Greece will no longer be able to prevent Macedonia from joining NATO.http://www.mhrmi.org/news/2009/march08_e.asp



Never say never...

So which country is going to team up with Turkey to prevent Cyprus from becoming a NATO member, if the above proposal goes through.?

I personally am not against NATO membership of so-called RoC. To the contrary, as a pro-globalist; i wish so-called RoC be in NATO. Turkey has to object NAto membership of so-called RoC because she does not recognize "RoC".

[Kikapu]

Insan, it dosent matter what he wants the ROC can simply not join it without bypassing turkeys veto. It just wont happen. All he can do is get rejected which he wont. Hes going to stick to the line that ideologically he is against it. If there was a small chance that the ROC could enter it im sure he would consider the membership although im not sure how he would sell it but given that it dosent exist this is all BS talk.

Canadian Defense Minister asks for change in NATO consensus on admitting new members

March 8, 2009


Canadian Defense Minister Peter McCay has asked NATO to change the concept on accession of new members, because of recent problems the Alliance has experienced with Macedonia and Croatia.

At a meeting with his US counterpart Robert Gates in Washington, McCay asked NATO to revise the article for consensus in order to avoid any possible failures due to bilateral issues, such as those between Greece and Macedonia and Slovenia and Croatia, which result in blocking the Alliance while admitting new members.

McCay suggests the present system to be replaced with a new system where at least two countries must object the accession of a new member, which means Greece will no longer be able to prevent Macedonia from joining NATO.http://www.mhrmi.org/news/2009/march08_e.asp



Never say never...

So which country is going to team up with Turkey to prevent Cyprus from becoming a NATO member, if the above proposal goes through.?

I personally am not against NATO membership of so-called RoC. To the contrary, as a pro-globalist; i wish so-called RoC be in NATO. Turkey has to object NAto membership of so-called RoC because she does not recognize "RoC".

The above proposal will not sit well with Turkey, to say the least. Not only she may not be able to prevent Cyprus from becoming a member on her own, but Cyprus would still have a veto power over Turkey's EU admission. Could there be anymore insult a country (Turkey) can take from a country (Cyprus) it does not recognise.?

But once Cyprus gets to become a NATO member, she can then team up with Greece to prevent others from getting in.! There goes the proposed plan, wouldn't you say.? What if Cyprus is seated right next to Turkey during one of NATO's conferences, a member state which Turkey does not recognise. More painful pill for Turkey to swallow, as Erdogan said recently about Cyprus's entry into the EU has been causing Turkey’s EU chapters from opening/closing , as being "unswallowable".!

You did not say who Turkey will team up to prevent Cyprus from becoming a member if the above proposals are accepted.!