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Postby RichardB » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:44 am

DT. wrote:
Lit wrote:
DT. wrote:
CBBB wrote:Don't tell me the priests are getting involved in politics again, please!


Greek orthodox church involvement in Cypriot politics is not as bad as Greek Orthodox church involvement in US politics. So far the Archbishop has gone to see both Obama and Hillary!


No, DT. The Primate was only sending a message from his flock. We are mobilized and our voices, few as they may be, will be heard this time.


It would have been a ridiculous action by the State Dept anyway. Apprently a meeting with her Cypriot counterpart Markos Kyprianou is now being planned.


This news is also on Phanitis website

Latest news on US state dept website is unable to confirm whether meeting is planned or not (This info from Clintons daily press briefing - 20 March)
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 24, 2009 10:45 am

paliometoxo wrote:cancelled? what could this thing have been this cyprus policy?


what?
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Postby RichardB » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:02 am

THE LETTER

March 20, 2009
The Honorable Barack Obama
President of the United States
The Honorable Joseph Biden
Vice President of the United States
The White House
Washington, D.C. 20500

Dear President Obama and Vice President Biden:

It has come to our attention that certain officials in your Administration are considering actions that are on the verge of extending the Bush Administration doctrine even further by establishing a Cyprus policy that contradicts both of your clearly articulated views on the issue. Please intervene before they cause America problems that will take years to correct.

Your Administration has not yet held high level contacts with either the President or the Foreign Minister of Cyprus. Thus, we are shocked to learn from a statement by the Turkish-Cypriot spokesman in Cyprus that they are now on the verge of establishing this Administration’s de facto recognition of an illegal entity in Cyprus’ militarily occupied area, while ignoring the internationally recognized Cyprus government. We understand that they plan to do this through high level Administration meetings with the leader of the pseudo-state before meetings with the President or Foreign Minister of the Republic of Cyprus.

You said to us in 2007, Mr. President, that America was “able to rely on Cyprus in the War on Terror and we were able to rely on Cyprus during the Lebanon Crisis.” Cyprus again demonstrated its support for U.S. security efforts by recently stopping an arms shipment from Iran to Hamas at U.S. urging. The last time Cyprus took such an action, Syria retaliated by taking a step toward de facto recognition of the occupied area of Cyprus by establishing ferry boat service to the north. If the people in your Administration follow through with these meetings, particularly before meeting with the government of Cyprus, our country will have punished Cyprus in the same way Syria did, by taking a step toward de facto recognition of the occupied area.

We know that you want, as you said to us, a “solution to the situation in Cyprus…based on the rule of law, not on force, one that is based on UN resolutions passed on the Cyprus issue, and on the very principles and standards of the EU….” Yet, the occupied area of Cyprus, with which your people are aligning you, is an anathema to those principles -- forced into place by more Turkish troops on that little island than America has in Afghanistan. Such de facto recognition will further solidify Turkish insistence on unreasonable Cyprus settlement provisions that virtually all Democrats on the Senate European Affairs Subcommittee objected to and which even a majority of the Republicans on that Subcommittee called “unacceptable to western democracies” in a letter to President Bush.

We understand that the Administration supports Turkey’s eventual accession into the European Union, as does the Republic of Cyprus. Pursuing anything that suggests de facto recognition of the occupation regime would not only be contrary to countless UN Security Council resolutions, but it would perhaps force the Republic of Cyprus to reconsider its stance with regard to Turkey and the EU.

Please overturn these misguided actions by people in your Administration. The Greek-American community that has been so committed to your Presidency and Vice Presidency, and the hope that they believed it would bring to the militarily occupied nation of Cyprus, will be devastated.

Sincerely,

Andrew A. Athens
Philip Christopher
Andy Manatos
Peter Papanicolaou
Nikos Mouyiaris
George Tsunis
Tasos Zambas
Endy Zemenides
Zenon Christodoulou
George Dovellos
Michael Galanakis


♠ Courtesy of Greek News, a Greek-American weekly newspaper
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Re: Knock knock...who's there

Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:15 am

DT. wrote:Talats meeting with Hilary just got cancelled. :lol:

Yeah yeah...links coming up. Give me a minute.


What did the Oracle say yesterday:

Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:46 am

Oracle wrote: There is no such meeting scheduled and you are just trying to find a way to say it was "cancelled" because of the Greek Lobby ...


MrH wrote:If it takes place, the Talat-Clinton meeting will come about a week before Obama's planned visit to Turkey.


... already you are doubting yourselves!


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus22955.html

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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:34 pm

Could not find anything on the subject aspart from this. Is it significant. Does this meeting point to any recognition of the north??



N. Cyprus President Talat Receives U.S. Senator Durbin
Published: 2/16/2009
LEFKOSA - President Mehmet Ali Talat of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) met on Monday US Senator to Illinois Richard Durbin and Illinois State Finance Minister Alexi Giannoulias.
No statement has been released about the meeting.
Durbin and Giannoulias are currently in the island to have talks about the solution of Cyprus question.
The U.S. executives are expected to visit Turkey and Greece after Cyprus.
(AY-AÖ)
(GEN)
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:39 pm

...and NO, I am not wearing Halils shoes. :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:43 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Could not find anything on the subject aspart from this. Is it significant. Does this meeting point to any recognition of the north??



N. Cyprus President Talat Receives U.S. Senator Durbin
Published: 2/16/2009
LEFKOSA - President Mehmet Ali Talat of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) met on Monday US Senator to Illinois Richard Durbin and Illinois State Finance Minister Alexi Giannoulias.
No statement has been released about the meeting.
Durbin and Giannoulias are currently in the island to have talks about the solution of Cyprus question.
The U.S. executives are expected to visit Turkey and Greece after Cyprus.
(AY-AÖ)
(GEN)


Deniz, meeting 2 members of the Greek-American lobby (one of the a Greek American) is not considered recognition regardless of the wording used by Turkish media
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:44 pm

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Could not find anything on the subject aspart from this. Is it significant. Does this meeting point to any recognition of the north??



N. Cyprus President Talat Receives U.S. Senator Durbin
Published: 2/16/2009
LEFKOSA - President Mehmet Ali Talat of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) met on Monday US Senator to Illinois Richard Durbin and Illinois State Finance Minister Alexi Giannoulias.
No statement has been released about the meeting.
Durbin and Giannoulias are currently in the island to have talks about the solution of Cyprus question.
The U.S. executives are expected to visit Turkey and Greece after Cyprus.
(AY-AÖ)
(GEN)


Deniz, meeting 2 members of the Greek-American lobby (one of the a Greek American) is not considered recognition regardless of the wording used by Turkish media


In their haste they forgot to add Master of the Universe :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:47 pm

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Could not find anything on the subject aspart from this. Is it significant. Does this meeting point to any recognition of the north??



N. Cyprus President Talat Receives U.S. Senator Durbin
Published: 2/16/2009
LEFKOSA - President Mehmet Ali Talat of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) met on Monday US Senator to Illinois Richard Durbin and Illinois State Finance Minister Alexi Giannoulias.
No statement has been released about the meeting.
Durbin and Giannoulias are currently in the island to have talks about the solution of Cyprus question.
The U.S. executives are expected to visit Turkey and Greece after Cyprus.
(AY-AÖ)
(GEN)


Deniz, meeting 2 members of the Greek-American lobby (one of the a Greek American) is not considered recognition regardless of the wording used by Turkish media



I know that DT. :roll:
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 24, 2009 1:10 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Could not find anything on the subject aspart from this. Is it significant. Does this meeting point to any recognition of the north??



N. Cyprus President Talat Receives U.S. Senator Durbin
Published: 2/16/2009
LEFKOSA - President Mehmet Ali Talat of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC) met on Monday US Senator to Illinois Richard Durbin and Illinois State Finance Minister Alexi Giannoulias.
No statement has been released about the meeting.
Durbin and Giannoulias are currently in the island to have talks about the solution of Cyprus question.
The U.S. executives are expected to visit Turkey and Greece after Cyprus.
(AY-AÖ)
(GEN)


Deniz, meeting 2 members of the Greek-American lobby (one of the a Greek American) is not considered recognition regardless of the wording used by Turkish media



I know that DT. :roll:


Damn :evil: I never know when you're being sarcastic!
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