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[Raymanoff]

Kikapu, ok then i was too busy reading swinger's posts... soz, my bad, old info

[Kikapu]

Kikapu, ok then i was too busy reading swinger's posts... soz, my bad, old info

No problem.!

[Paphitis]

Air Crash Investigation is a series of documentaries about major Air Disasters around the world and the fascinating procedures and techniques used by Air Crash Investigation Teams in order to piece together the chain of events that led to the crash.

You would absolutely love it!

Here are some episodes:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4703379668

The above is all about the KLM and Pan Am disaster in Tenerife. This is an excellent case study for Crew Resource Management we talked about in the THY thread.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9830845243

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lrn4 ... shortfilms

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000140407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5W9YC-1EU

This stuff is certainly very educational. A pilot's education never ends.

I urge everyone to watch the above.

This is great stuff, thanks a lot. Now I have more interesting things to watch than porn.!

Kiks,

do you think that the above links might help Oracle with getting over her fear of flying, or would it result in her doing her cross 7 times, then downing 5 shots of Whiskey and Prozac before getting on the plane?

[Kikapu]

Air Crash Investigation is a series of documentaries about major Air Disasters around the world and the fascinating procedures and techniques used by Air Crash Investigation Teams in order to piece together the chain of events that led to the crash.

You would absolutely love it!

Here are some episodes:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 4703379668

The above is all about the KLM and Pan Am disaster in Tenerife. This is an excellent case study for Crew Resource Management we talked about in the THY thread.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 9830845243

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5lrn4 ... shortfilms

http://www.guba.com/watch/3000140407

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A5W9YC-1EU

This stuff is certainly very educational. A pilot's education never ends.

I urge everyone to watch the above.

This is great stuff, thanks a lot. Now I have more interesting things to watch than porn.!

Kiks,

do you think that the above links might help Oracle with getting over her fear of flying, or would it result in her doing her cross 7 times, then downing 5 shots of Whiskey and Prozac before getting on the plane?

Personally speaking, I think it will be the latter for Oracle, I'm afraid.!

I thinks she doesn't want to know anything about planes that has a sad endings. I think she would prefer anything that has a happy endings, like all the "chick films" she watches.!

[Kikapu]

Air France Rio-Paris flight missing with 228 aboard

4 mins ago
PARIS (Reuters) – An Air France plane flying from Brazil to Paris has gone missing with 228 people on board, the airline said on Monday.

Its last known location was unclear. The Brazilian air force said its planes had begun searching for the airliner off the northeast coast of Brazil.

Flight AF 447 has 216 passengers and 12 crew on board. It left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday at 7 p.m. (6:00 p.m. EDT) and was expected to land at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport on Monday at 11:15 a.m. (5:15 a.m. EDT).

"Air France regrets to announce that it is without news from flight AF 447," an Air France spokesman said.

Henry Wilson, a Brazilian air force spokesman, said planes had taken off from the island of Fernando de Noronha off Brazil's northeast coast to look for the Air France jet.

An Air France-KLM spokeswoman in Amsterdam said there had been no radio contact with the missing plane "for a while".

The plane was an Airbus 330-200, according to the Paris airports authority website.

Air France said relatives of people traveling on board flight AF 447 were being taken care of in a special area of Charles de Gaulle airport.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090601/ts_ ... ance_plane

[SSBubbles]

Air France Rio-Paris flight missing with 228 aboard
4 mins ago
PARIS (Reuters) – An Air France plane flying from Brazil to Paris has gone missing with 228 people on board, the airline said on Monday.
Its last known location was unclear. The Brazilian air force said its planes had begun searching for the airliner off the northeast coast of Brazil.
Flight AF 447 has 216 passengers and 12 crew on board. It left Rio de Janeiro on Sunday at 7 p.m. (6:00 p.m. EDT) and was expected to land at Paris Charles de Gaulle airport on Monday at 11:15 a.m. (5:15 a.m. EDT).
"Air France regrets to announce that it is without news from flight AF 447," an Air France spokesman said.
Henry Wilson, a Brazilian air force spokesman, said planes had taken off from the island of Fernando de Noronha off Brazil's northeast coast to look for the Air France jet.
An Air France-KLM spokeswoman in Amsterdam said there had been no radio contact with the missing plane "for a while".
The plane was an Airbus 330-200, according to the Paris airports authority website.
Air France said relatives of people traveling on board flight AF 447 were being taken care of in a special area of Charles de Gaulle airport.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090601/ts_ ... ance_plane

I pray for the aircraft to be found and all lives saved.

[DT.]

Looks like AIr France received an automated message declaring an electrical fault on the plane. Most probably cause by a severe lightning strike on the plane. There was a heavy thunderstorm in that area over the Atlantic at the time.

[Kikapu]

Looks like AIr France received an automated message declaring an electrical fault on the plane. Most probably cause by a severe lightning strike on the plane. There was a heavy thunderstorm in that area over the Atlantic at the time.

The only problem with the above report, DT, is the fact that this plane was already more than 4 hours into it's flight before losing contact, which would have been above 30,000 feet, more like 35,000 ft, so I don't think thunderstorm or lightning would have been a factor at that altitude. Turbulence most definitely, but thunderstorm, I very much doubt it.

If the aircraft did hit an extreme turbulence, then everything is possible, from the whole plane shaking as if it has been through a "shaker" to cause enough "internal damage" to the aircrafts electrical units /shorting wires to things breaking off externally, like the engines or parts of the wings, horizontal and vertical stabilizers or the rudder. The wings are only suppose to support 1.5 times the weight of the aircraft before they can break off completely. With great force put on during a turbulence, anything can happen. Perhaps Paphitis can add more information here from his knowledge on such conditions.!

[DT.]

Looks like AIr France received an automated message declaring an electrical fault on the plane. Most probably cause by a severe lightning strike on the plane. There was a heavy thunderstorm in that area over the Atlantic at the time.

The only problem with the above report, DT, is the fact that this plane was already more than 4 hours into it's flight before losing contact, which would have been above 30,000 feet, more like 35,000 ft, so I don't think thunderstorm or lightning would have been a factor at that altitude. Turbulence most definitely, but thunderstorm, I very much doubt it.

If the aircraft did hit an extreme turbulence, then everything is possible, from the whole plane shaking as if it has been through a "shaker" to cause enough "internal damage" to the aircrafts electrical units /shorting wires to things breaking off externally, like the engines or parts of the wings, horizontal and vertical stabilizers or the rudder. The wings are only suppose to support 1.5 times the weight of the aircraft before they can break off completely. With great force put on during a turbulence, anything can happen. Perhaps Paphitis can add more information here from his knowledge on such conditions.!

Kiks there were thunrderstorms recorded at 52,000 feet in that area at that time.

[Kikapu]

Looks like AIr France received an automated message declaring an electrical fault on the plane. Most probably cause by a severe lightning strike on the plane. There was a heavy thunderstorm in that area over the Atlantic at the time.

The only problem with the above report, DT, is the fact that this plane was already more than 4 hours into it's flight before losing contact, which would have been above 30,000 feet, more like 35,000 ft, so I don't think thunderstorm or lightning would have been a factor at that altitude. Turbulence most definitely, but thunderstorm, I very much doubt it.

If the aircraft did hit an extreme turbulence, then everything is possible, from the whole plane shaking as if it has been through a "shaker" to cause enough "internal damage" to the aircrafts electrical units /shorting wires to things breaking off externally, like the engines or parts of the wings, horizontal and vertical stabilizers or the rudder. The wings are only suppose to support 1.5 times the weight of the aircraft before they can break off completely. With great force put on during a turbulence, anything can happen. Perhaps Paphitis can add more information here from his knowledge on such conditions.!

Kiks there were thunrderstorms recorded at 52,000 feet in that area at that time.

Yeah, I've read that. The only question I have then, was this the only aircraft flying in this area at this time of the night, and if not, where was the warning from other planes and why did they too not have the same problems as Air France 447, because at 52,000 feet, the temperature is probably minus 70°C-80°C, in which case, the plane would have run into an "Asteroid Belt of Ice" at 35,000 feet flying at 500 mph,, which would have caused a lot of damage to the aircraft, with blocks of ice punching holes through the aircrafts skin, which would have caused immediate loss of cabin pressure. We will know what happened if and when they find the "Black Boxes".