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[miltiades]

The election was won by the settlers !!!

[utu]

The term "pseudo" is inaccurate in this case. An election took place. Real, not imaginary. True, it is for an unrecognized government, yet there was a sizeable turnout of electors and under democratic criteria, makes an election therefore "proper", not "pseudo"...

[Kifeas]

The term "pseudo" is inaccurate in this case. An election took place. Real, not imaginary. True, it is for an unrecognized government, yet there was a sizeable turnout of electors and under democratic criteria, makes an election therefore "proper", not "pseudo"...

If the elections were for determining the leadership of the Turkish Cypriot community, then they would have been prober, provided only the legitimate members of the TC community would have voted. In this case, not only the vast majority of voters were not Turkish Cypriots but instead illegally transferred citizens of another country (Turkey,) but also the purpose of these elections was illegal, because they were elections to determine the "government" of an illegitimate and illegal entity (“TRNC.”) In view of the above two facts, yes, the "elections" were indeed pseudo-elections in every sense of the term, no matter how many sophistries you will try to introduce in order to claim the opposite!

[Bananiot]

In this case they are illegal not "pseudo". There has never been a Greek word that has been abused so much by so many as the word pseudo.

[turkkan]

We have accepted a lot of the settlers as part of our community, we dont need your permission on who will vote in our elections. Besides, are you really buying this whole BS that Eroglu won only because of the settlers and TC's didnt vote for him? THe AKP goverment did everything in its power to make sure talat stayed in power, it made up that BS about ergenekon in cyprus a week before the election to discredit eroglu, it then sent its European negotiating head to meet talat a few days before the actual election in further hope to boost his standing, it all failed. The TC's have gotten fed up with CTP, the bias these people had for their own people under their government was past any sensible means, unless you were a CTP member you got no jobs in any government sector position or any business they had their hands on. Their people even got massive loans in the millions to build hotels in the north and not one cent was ever demanded back as they were 'friends'. Talat lied about what the greeks would accept in a negotiation. Overall our decision is their time is up.

[Omer Seyhan]

they will put some pro partiton guy up there. not that talat is any better insisiting on partition.. so will the next guy and the guy after.. but hopefully there will be a solution before talats time is up a solution for both sides that make both happy

Palio, I don't believe it will make any difference.

I agree. It will make no difference because they are all there for the same reason - to represent Turkey.

Check this out

The aim of the current talks is to reunite the island as a bizonal federation. The UBP, however, says it wants a rethink of the process.

"We will continue to support negotiations," said UBP leader Dervis Eroglu. "No one should say we are against them. We will put forward our views and discuss them within the framework of Turkey's foreign policy on Cyprus."

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4191043,00.html

[Omer Seyhan]

We have accepted a lot of the settlers as part of our community, we dont need your permission on who will vote in our elections. Besides, are you really buying this whole BS that Eroglu won only because of the settlers and TC's didnt vote for him? THe AKP goverment did everything in its power to make sure talat stayed in power, it made up that BS about ergenekon in cyprus a week before the election to discredit eroglu, it then sent its European negotiating head to meet talat a few days before the actual election in further hope to boost his standing, it all failed. The TC's have gotten fed up with CTP, the bias these people had for their own people under their government was past any sensible means, unless you were a CTP member you got no jobs in any government sector position or any business they had their hands on. Their people even got massive loans in the millions to build hotels in the north and not one cent was ever demanded back as they were 'friends'. Talat lied about what the greeks would accept in a negotiation. Overall our decision is their time is up.

1. 100,000 settler voters out of 162,000 make a hell of a difference.

2. I agree that CTP did all these things. But UBP did the same before CTP. In fact CTP learnt this behaviour from UBP. This is how the pseudo state works, where are no laws governing employment and discrimination.

3. 'Our' decision, I take it you're a settler.If you are T/C then you had no part to play in this.

[Kifeas]

In this case they are illegal not "pseudo". There has never been a Greek word that has been abused so much by so many as the word pseudo.

The word "pseudo," in both Greek and English, means "false" and /or "deceptive" and /or "fake."

[Omer Seyhan]

The term "pseudo" is inaccurate in this case. An election took place. Real, not imaginary. True, it is for an unrecognized government, yet there was a sizeable turnout of electors and under democratic criteria, makes an election therefore "proper", not "pseudo"...

If the elections were for determining the leadership of the Turkish Cypriot community, then they would have been prober, provided only the legitimate members of the TC community would have voted. In this case, not only the vast majority of voters were not Turkish Cypriots but instead illegally transferred citizens of another country (Turkey,) but also the purpose of these elections was illegal, because they were elections to determine the "government" of an illegitimate and illegal entity (“TRNC.”) In view of the above two facts, yes, the "elections" were indeed pseudo-elections in every sense of the term, no matter how many sophistries you will try to introduce in order to claim the opposite!

I agree 100%. If they were to decide a T/C leadership then why were there 100,000 settler voters involved? That is 62% of voters who are NOT T/Cs....

Imagine the reaction if next time Scotland voted, we shipped 62% + voter there to interfere with the result....




We T/Cs on the other hand are a soft touch ; we do not care if our democratic rights are taken away from us. We prefer to blame the G/Cs for things that happened 44 years ago rather than criticise what Turkey is doing to us today. Bravo, bravo......

[Omer Seyhan]

In this case they are illegal not "pseudo". There has never been a Greek word that has been abused so much by so many as the word pseudo.

The word "pseudo," in both Greek and English, means "false" and /or "deceptive" and /or "fake."

They are pseudo because they deceive the world in believing that my community voted for hardline nationalists of Turkey. That makes me angry.