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Again, Greek Cypriots Resort to Threats and Blackmail!

Postby MrH » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:27 am

As usual, Greek Cypriots once again resort to Blackmail and Threats....But will OBAMA act differently?

The particular News Agency I work for has confirmed that the meeting will definitely go ahead regardless of countless GC threats. Why? Because the CYPRUS POSITION has shifted due to the GC reject of the Annan Plan, and possible rejection of the plan currently being discussed!!!

Well, despite the tiresome and relentless argument portrayed by these GCs\American Greeks of their interpretation of the Cyprus problem, perhaps they should realise that many International Politicians and personalities are now very familiar with the Cyprus problem, have extensive in-depth knowledge from all angles of the Cyprus issue, and know the extent of the Greek position. They also realise that, although Turkey may be accused of "occupying" Cypriot land in Northern Cyprus, this was obviously not out of choice, but out of necessity and by the call of the Turkish Cypriots. They know that Christofias has no choice but to sit around a table with his "Turkish Cypriot Counterpart", they know that they have also made some very inherited mistakes on the Cyprus question, and know that the removal of the ISOLATION of NORTHRN CYPRUS is not a matter of, or should be in part of, an overall Cyprus solution, but is a humanitarian and MORAL right to all people living in Northern Cyprus regardless of whether you are a Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot or visitor.

The era of Greek threats have warn the soles of their tonges, where the world now wants a resolution to the Cyprus problem and not stalemate, period! This is a reality the Greek Cypriots seriously need to wake up to; otherwise their negative attitude will permanently partition Cyprus.
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NEWS Extract taken from Hurriyet NEWS This morning:
US Greeks disturbed by Talat-Clinton meet

by Ümit Enginsoy

WASHINGTON - Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat is expected to meet with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington March 30 as U.S. Greek groups seek to prevent the visit from taking place.

Talat is expected to arrive in Washington on March 29 and have talks with Clinton the next day, diplomatic sources told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review. The invitation for the visit has come from the U.S. State Department, they said. Deeply annoyed, 11 leaders of the National Coordinated Effort of Hellenes, or CEH, sent a letter to President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden "to reverse the decision," according to U.S. Greek paper Greek News.

They urged Obama and Biden "to intervene" before the visit causes the United States "problems that will take years to correct."

"Pursuing anything that suggests de facto recognition of the occupation regime would not only be contrary to countless U.N. Security Council resolutions, but it would perhaps force the Republic of Cyprus to reconsider its stance with regard to Turkey and the European Union," the U.S. Greek leaders said.

"Please overturn these misguided actions by people in your administration," they said.

Talat met with former secretary of state Colin Powell in Washington in 2004 in the wake of a failed U.N.-backed reunification referendum in Cyprus. In the April 2004 referendum, most Turkish Cypriots voted for reunification under a U.N. plan, while a vast majority of Greek Cypriots rejected the plan.

If it takes place, the Talat-Clinton meeting will come about a week before Obama's planned visit to Turkey.

During a visit to Ankara earlier this month, Clinton called for the lifting of an international economic embargo on Turkish Cypriots.

Biden, in his years as a prominent senator before becoming vice president, had supported the Greek position in numerous cases.
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Postby Oracle » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:46 am

There is no such meeting scheduled and you are just trying to find a way to say it was "cancelled" because of the Greek Lobby ...

MrH wrote:If it takes place, the Talat-Clinton meeting will come about a week before Obama's planned visit to Turkey.


... already you are doubting yourselves!
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Postby Piratis » Mon Mar 23, 2009 11:49 am

The blackmail is all done by the Turks who are illegally occupying 1/3rd of Cyprus and they are using their army trying to blackmail Cypriots to accept their demands.
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Re: Again, Greek Cypriots Resort to Threats and Blackmail!

Postby Jerry » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:17 pm

MrH wrote:As usual, Greek Cypriots once again resort to Blackmail and Threats....But will OBAMA act differently?

The particular News Agency I work for has confirmed that the meeting will definitely go ahead regardless of countless GC threats. Why? Because the CYPRUS POSITION has shifted due to the GC reject of the Annan Plan, and possible rejection of the plan currently being discussed!!!

Well, despite the tiresome and relentless argument portrayed by these GCs\American Greeks of their interpretation of the Cyprus problem, perhaps they should realise that many International Politicians and personalities are now very familiar with the Cyprus problem, have extensive in-depth knowledge from all angles of the Cyprus issue, and know the extent of the Greek position. They also realise that, although Turkey may be accused of "occupying" Cypriot land in Northern Cyprus, this was obviously not out of choice, but out of necessity and by the call of the Turkish Cypriots. They know that Christofias has no choice but to sit around a table with his "Turkish Cypriot Counterpart", they know that they have also made some very inherited mistakes on the Cyprus question, and know that the removal of the ISOLATION of NORTHRN CYPRUS is not a matter of, or should be in part of, an overall Cyprus solution, but is a humanitarian and MORAL right to all people living in Northern Cyprus regardless of whether you are a Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot or visitor.

The era of Greek threats have warn the soles of their tonges, where the world now wants a resolution to the Cyprus problem and not stalemate, period! This is a reality the Greek Cypriots seriously need to wake up to; otherwise their negative attitude will permanently partition Cyprus.
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NEWS Extract taken from Hurriyet NEWS This morning:
US Greeks disturbed by Talat-Clinton meet

by Ümit Enginsoy

WASHINGTON - Turkish Cypriot President Mehmet Ali Talat is expected to meet with U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington March 30 as U.S. Greek groups seek to prevent the visit from taking place.

Talat is expected to arrive in Washington on March 29 and have talks with Clinton the next day, diplomatic sources told the Hürriyet Daily News & Economic Review. The invitation for the visit has come from the U.S. State Department, they said. Deeply annoyed, 11 leaders of the National Coordinated Effort of Hellenes, or CEH, sent a letter to President Barack Obama and Vice President Joe Biden "to reverse the decision," according to U.S. Greek paper Greek News.

They urged Obama and Biden "to intervene" before the visit causes the United States "problems that will take years to correct."

"Pursuing anything that suggests de facto recognition of the occupation regime would not only be contrary to countless U.N. Security Council resolutions, but it would perhaps force the Republic of Cyprus to reconsider its stance with regard to Turkey and the European Union," the U.S. Greek leaders said.

"Please overturn these misguided actions by people in your administration," they said.

Talat met with former secretary of state Colin Powell in Washington in 2004 in the wake of a failed U.N.-backed reunification referendum in Cyprus. In the April 2004 referendum, most Turkish Cypriots voted for reunification under a U.N. plan, while a vast majority of Greek Cypriots rejected the plan.

If it takes place, the Talat-Clinton meeting will come about a week before Obama's planned visit to Turkey.

During a visit to Ankara earlier this month, Clinton called for the lifting of an international economic embargo on Turkish Cypriots.

Biden, in his years as a prominent senator before becoming vice president, had supported the Greek position in numerous cases.


IF such a meeting ever takes place what are they going to say when Obama asks "why have you replaced tens of thousands of resident Turkish Cypriots with hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from Turkey, contrary to international law?"
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Re: Again, Greek Cypriots Resort to Threats and Blackmail!

Postby Get Real! » Mon Mar 23, 2009 12:33 pm

Jerry wrote:IF such a meeting ever takes place what are they going to say when Obama asks "why have you replaced tens of thousands of resident Turkish Cypriots with hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants from Turkey, contrary to international law?"

I guess one option for Talat is…

“I’ll write out a generous cheque to you if you refrain from asking these kind of questions!”

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Postby paliometoxo » Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:07 pm

as usual? who is it that went to eu and told them forget cyprus we are a great nation???!? who is it that told eu they would not put their pipelines through TURKEY if eu did not continue their talks?!?!? you will find its TURKEY that does the blackmailing and knows only by force to get what they want
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Postby MrH » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:22 pm

paliometoxo Wrote:

as usual? who is it that went to eu and told them forget cyprus we are a great nation???!? who is it that told eu they would not put their pipelines through TURKEY if eu did not continue their talks?!?!? you will find its TURKEY that does the blackmailing and knows only by force to get what they want



Well Pali, I guess the point of the matter is, Turkey will get what it ultimately wants because of its importance to the U.S against the empty threats mad by the Greeks of American and the Greek Cypriots! National Policy is always consider more important after an election than annoying a few Greek-American NGOs!

Please, tell me, do you really think a few American-Greek luxury ship owners will convince the American establishment in dismissing Turko-American Multi-Billion dollar investments because Greek views on the tiny island of Cyprus?

Cyprus is nothing in the eyes of Turkish-American politics, it even doesn't get a mention until the leaders decide to part from their meetings and approach the exist, where the American leaders say "Oh, by the way, about Cyprus - yeah, whatever!".

The Cyprus situation is SOLVED, done and dusted, and here are the simple steps:

1) Talat and Chris draw up a bogus Federal plan and GC-DIKO and EDEK reject it out-right, together with the TC party policy of the UBP, thus convincing their people respective peoples to say "OXI" and "Hayir".

2) The Isolation on Northern Cyprus is lifted, thus Northern Cyprus moves into a kind of "Taiwanisation" scenario until Turkey, One Day, becomes a European Union member.

3) Meanwhile, Turkey lifts the GC-Embargo on its ports with the GC-Republic of Cyprus, an offer the GCs can not refuse, and we all live happily ever after.

4) After Turkey becomes an EU member state, will the threat of the island being flooded with EU-Turks, the Greek Cypriots immediately advise the UN Security Council to Recognise the TRNC as an independent state only to remove Turkey from the "Cypriot" equation.


You've got to be barking made not to see the above from happening.
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Postby wallace » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:27 pm

MrH wrote:paliometoxo Wrote:

as usual? who is it that went to eu and told them forget cyprus we are a great nation???!? who is it that told eu they would not put their pipelines through TURKEY if eu did not continue their talks?!?!? you will find its TURKEY that does the blackmailing and knows only by force to get what they want



Well Pali, I guess the point of the matter is, Turkey will get what it ultimately wants because of its importance to the U.S against the empty threats mad by the Greeks of American and the Greek Cypriots! National Policy is always consider more important after an election than annoying a few Greek-American NGOs!

Please, tell me, do you really think a few American-Greek luxury ship owners will convince the American establishment in dismissing Turko-American Multi-Billion dollar investments because Greek views on the tiny island of Cyprus?

Cyprus is nothing in the eyes of Turkish-American politics, it even doesn't get a mention until the leaders decide to part from their meetings and approach the exist, where the American leaders say "Oh, by the way, about Cyprus - yeah, whatever!".

The Cyprus situation is SOLVED, done and dusted, and here are the simple steps:

1) Talat and Chris draw up a bogus Federal plan and GC-DIKO and EDEK reject it out-right, together with the TC party policy of the UBP, thus convincing their people respective peoples to say "OXI" and "Hayir".

2) The Isolation on Northern Cyprus is lifted, thus Northern Cyprus moves into a kind of "Taiwanisation" scenario until Turkey, One Day, becomes a European Union member.

3) Meanwhile, Turkey lifts the GC-Embargo on its ports with the GC-Republic of Cyprus, an offer the GCs can not refuse, and we all live happily ever after.

4) After Turkey becomes an EU member state, will the threat of the island being flooded with EU-Turks, the Greek Cypriots immediately advise the UN Security Council to Recognise the TRNC as an independent state only to remove Turkey from the "Cypriot" equation.


You've got to be barking made not to see the above from happening.


And then you wake up :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:29 pm

MrH wrote:paliometoxo Wrote:

as usual? who is it that went to eu and told them forget cyprus we are a great nation???!? who is it that told eu they would not put their pipelines through TURKEY if eu did not continue their talks?!?!? you will find its TURKEY that does the blackmailing and knows only by force to get what they want



Well Pali, I guess the point of the matter is, Turkey will get what it ultimately wants because of its importance to the U.S against the empty threats mad by the Greeks of American and the Greek Cypriots! National Policy is always consider more important after an election than annoying a few Greek-American NGOs!

Please, tell me, do you really think a few American-Greek luxury ship owners will convince the American establishment in dismissing Turko-American Multi-Billion dollar investments because Greek views on the tiny island of Cyprus?

Cyprus is nothing in the eyes of Turkish-American politics, it even doesn't get a mention until the leaders decide to part from their meetings and approach the exist, where the American leaders say "Oh, by the way, about Cyprus - yeah, whatever!".

The Cyprus situation is SOLVED, done and dusted, and here are the simple steps:

1) Talat and Chris draw up a bogus Federal plan and GC-DIKO and EDEK reject it out-right, together with the TC party policy of the UBP, thus convincing their people respective peoples to say "OXI" and "Hayir".

2) The Isolation on Northern Cyprus is lifted, thus Northern Cyprus moves into a kind of "Taiwanisation" scenario until Turkey, One Day, becomes a European Union member.

3) Meanwhile, Turkey lifts the GC-Embargo on its ports with the GC-Republic of Cyprus, an offer the GCs can not refuse, and we all live happily ever after.

4) After Turkey becomes an EU member state, will the threat of the island being flooded with EU-Turks, the Greek Cypriots immediately advise the UN Security Council to Recognise the TRNC as an independent state only to remove Turkey from the "Cypriot" equation.


You've got to be barking made not to see the above from happening.


Then call me Snoopy.

Can you explain how you expect No 2 to happen and why? While you're at it let me know which govt in Cyprus would ever agree to point 3 in exchange for giving up our lands?
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Postby Tim Drayton » Mon Mar 23, 2009 3:55 pm

MrH wrote:paliometoxo Wrote:

as usual? who is it that went to eu and told them forget cyprus we are a great nation???!? who is it that told eu they would not put their pipelines through TURKEY if eu did not continue their talks?!?!? you will find its TURKEY that does the blackmailing and knows only by force to get what they want



Well Pali, I guess the point of the matter is, Turkey will get what it ultimately wants because of its importance to the U.S against the empty threats mad by the Greeks of American and the Greek Cypriots! National Policy is always consider more important after an election than annoying a few Greek-American NGOs!

Please, tell me, do you really think a few American-Greek luxury ship owners will convince the American establishment in dismissing Turko-American Multi-Billion dollar investments because Greek views on the tiny island of Cyprus?

Cyprus is nothing in the eyes of Turkish-American politics, it even doesn't get a mention until the leaders decide to part from their meetings and approach the exist, where the American leaders say "Oh, by the way, about Cyprus - yeah, whatever!".

The Cyprus situation is SOLVED, done and dusted, and here are the simple steps:

1) Talat and Chris draw up a bogus Federal plan and GC-DIKO and EDEK reject it out-right, together with the TC party policy of the UBP, thus convincing their people respective peoples to say "OXI" and "Hayir".

2) The Isolation on Northern Cyprus is lifted, thus Northern Cyprus moves into a kind of "Taiwanisation" scenario until Turkey, One Day, becomes a European Union member.

3) Meanwhile, Turkey lifts the GC-Embargo on its ports with the GC-Republic of Cyprus, an offer the GCs can not refuse, and we all live happily ever after.

4) After Turkey becomes an EU member state, will the threat of the island being flooded with EU-Turks, the Greek Cypriots immediately advise the UN Security Council to Recognise the TRNC as an independent state only to remove Turkey from the "Cypriot" equation.


You've got to be barking made not to see the above from happening.


Point number three, rather than being an offer which cannot be refused, is actually a demand that is being made.

On point number four, given that Cyprus is already an EU member and EU citizens are entitled to settle here, EU-Turks (as you call them) would also enjoy this right irrespective of whether there are one or two states. Anyway, the north of Cyprus is already flooded with mainland Turks, of the non-EU variety, isn't it? What changes under this scenario?

What is "barking made"?
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