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Talat’s brave pledge is a lesson for our politicians

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:04 pm

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.


President Talat is giving out the right signal imo that he only has until the end of this year to solve this problem, if the GCs want to continue dragging their feet then they will have another negotiating partner who will not be as accomadating as himself, there are alternative leaders in the north who will bow to everythign Turkeys says at least President Talat has tried to persuade turkey to be more flexible on certain issues, if the GCs are not clever enough to see this advantage they will never solve this matter.
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Postby christos1 » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:08 pm

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christos1 wrote:From the Turkish Zaman:

Opinion polls suggest that the right-wing National Unity Party (UBP), advocating a harder line on reunification talks, could win the vote. Talat has been negotiating a peace settlement with rival Greek Cypriots since September 2008. The upcoming vote could tip the balance of power in the KKTC.

Talat yesterday gathered with Turkish journalists at a meeting in İstanbul. He was asked about the possible effects of the UBP's recent advance in opinion polls on the ongoing negotiation process with Greek Cypriots.

"I don't know what the result will be. However, the government to be formed has to support the negotiation process. This [negotiation process] is the product of a long process and is a position that has been maintained in coordination with Turkey. If the new government doesn't support it, chaos will emerge," Talat said.

The UBP's policies to date have been unsupportive of reunification talks, but party policies can change after coming to power, Talat also noted.

Christofias says Turkey harming peace talks

A presidential contest is not due until 2010, but the center-left Republican Turks' Party (CTP), which Talat headed before being elected as president, is now the largest in parliament. Opinion polls show it trailing the UBP, however.


Again, if the TCs thought Talat was brave, why not award his party with their votes? What kind of show is being put on here?

You are missing the point. Turkey is on the peace train. Eroglu will not be able to do what Denktash did.


I am missing the point? Talking to you is like talking to a wall, YFred. Forget it. Your comments are completely useless. As always, you may have the last say.
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Postby YFred » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:08 pm

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YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.


President Talat is giving out the right signal imo that he only has until the end of this year to solve this problem, if the GCs want to continue dragging their feet then they will have another negotiating partner who will not be as accomadating as himself, there are alternative leaders in the north who will bow to everythign Turkeys says at least President Talat has tried to persuade turkey to be more flexible on certain issues, if the GCs are not clever enough to see this advantage they will never solve this matter.

I think Christofias knows it and is playing to his right wing partners. We will find out in a few months what is really going on.
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Postby Sotos » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:10 pm

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.


President Talat is giving out the right signal imo that he only has until the end of this year to solve this problem, if the GCs want to continue dragging their feet then they will have another negotiating partner who will not be as accomadating as himself, there are alternative leaders in the north who will bow to everythign Turkeys says at least President Talat has tried to persuade turkey to be more flexible on certain issues, if the GCs are not clever enough to see this advantage they will never solve this matter.

I think Christofias knows it and is playing to his right wing partners. We will find out in a few months what is really going on.


Don't hope that Christofias will betray Cyprus so you can get what you want.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:12 pm

YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.


President Talat is giving out the right signal imo that he only has until the end of this year to solve this problem, if the GCs want to continue dragging their feet then they will have another negotiating partner who will not be as accomadating as himself, there are alternative leaders in the north who will bow to everythign Turkeys says at least President Talat has tried to persuade turkey to be more flexible on certain issues, if the GCs are not clever enough to see this advantage they will never solve this matter.

I think Christofias knows it and is playing to his right wing partners. We will find out in a few months what is really going on.


I think the bomb will be dropped in September the fallout will go on just before Turkeys EU report is made public.
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Postby YFred » Sun Mar 22, 2009 7:20 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
YFred wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.


President Talat is giving out the right signal imo that he only has until the end of this year to solve this problem, if the GCs want to continue dragging their feet then they will have another negotiating partner who will not be as accomadating as himself, there are alternative leaders in the north who will bow to everythign Turkeys says at least President Talat has tried to persuade turkey to be more flexible on certain issues, if the GCs are not clever enough to see this advantage they will never solve this matter.

I think Christofias knows it and is playing to his right wing partners. We will find out in a few months what is really going on.


I think the bomb will be dropped in September the fallout will go on just before Turkeys EU report is made public.

Yep, its heading that way.
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:02 am

Loucas Charalambous is just a columnist in the Sunday Mail. The same article appears in "Politis" in Greek on the same day. I can't see why the newspaper is at fault, as some idiots here claim, because of the views expressed by some columnist.

Those that claim that Talat and Denktash are the same are absolutely clueless. They actually mean to say that all Turks are the same but have not come around to say it yet. Wait for it, its coming, soon now.
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Postby YFred » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:08 am

It's so easy to blame the messenger when the news is not what you want it to be. We see enough on this forum where certain people refer to the Turks who arrived on the island in 1571 to go back to their homes. Sad but true. They will have to wake up sooner or later.
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Postby christos1 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:11 am

Bananiot wrote:Loucas Charalambous is just a columnist in the Sunday Mail. The same article appears in "Politis" in Greek on the same day. I can't see why the newspaper is at fault, as some idiots here claim, because of the views expressed by some columnist.

Those that claim that Talat and Denktash are the same are absolutely clueless. They actually mean to say that all Turks are the same but have not come around to say it yet. Wait for it, its coming, soon now.



Talat is not running again for the simple fact that he cant win. If thats not the case, why dont you try and answer my question.

Answer my question. Opinion polls suggest that the National Unity Party (UBP), advocating a harder line on reunification talks will win in the so called upcoming election, isnt this the case?

Answer my question, isnt Talat's party also trailing in the so called presidential contest to the UBP? What bravery are we talking about? His party isnt doing well, its a fact. If the TCs thought Talat was brave wouldnt they reward his party with their votes?
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Postby christos1 » Mon Mar 23, 2009 10:14 am

YFred wrote:It's so easy to blame the messenger when the news is not what you want it to be. We see enough on this forum where certain people refer to the Turks who arrived on the island in 1571 to go back to their homes. Sad but true. They will have to wake up sooner or later.


Damn, when do you sleep? You have, and i am not exaggerating, flooded this forum with your irrelevant comments. I ask you about who is leading in opinion polls and you post nonsense like this drivel above. What are you doing? Are you on drugs?
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