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[YFred]

Talat said: “My aim is to achieve a settlement in 2009. But the procedure is moving at a very slow pace. If the hope of settlement vanishes, then my mission will come to an end.” In such a case, Talat said, he would not be a candidate in the elections scheduled in the north for this time next year.

Is that braveness?

It's not just brave it's honest and clean politics.

He is very brave and is reaching the point that I reached after the AP referendum this problem is unsolvable and being honest he placed so much faith in GC "brother" only to have his face slapped time ant ime again. The GC mentality hasshown him that they do not want to share jack shit and demand we capitulate to accepting minority statued under a GC leader in a GC state....this we will never do so the stark truth of the matter is this division will continue forever. Good try but you were doomed to failure you underestimated the GCs will for a solution and misread their "brotherly" camaflouge as a chance to resolve matters, President Talat is the only real chance GCs will ever have in finding a solution, that chance is very fast fading but again they are so blind and stubborn to see this they are doomed to division forever.

I was of the same mind at that time but I put it down to TPap not really wanting a negotiated solution. I genuinely thought that with Mr Christofias was going to be different, so I cannot believe the similarity between them. I have not lost complete hope yet though. He may well be agreeing but not telling his rightwing friends just yet and may actually do some good, but I am fast coming to your point of view that this may never be solved.

[Viewpoint]

Talat said: “My aim is to achieve a settlement in 2009. But the procedure is moving at a very slow pace. If the hope of settlement vanishes, then my mission will come to an end.” In such a case, Talat said, he would not be a candidate in the elections scheduled in the north for this time next year.

Is that braveness?

It's not just brave it's honest and clean politics.

He is very brave and is reaching the point that I reached after the AP referendum this problem is unsolvable and being honest he placed so much faith in GC "brother" only to have his face slapped time ant ime again. The GC mentality hasshown him that they do not want to share jack shit and demand we capitulate to accepting minority statued under a GC leader in a GC state....this we will never do so the stark truth of the matter is this division will continue forever. Good try but you were doomed to failure you underestimated the GCs will for a solution and misread their "brotherly" camaflouge as a chance to resolve matters, President Talat is the only real chance GCs will ever have in finding a solution, that chance is very fast fading but again they are so blind and stubborn to see this they are doomed to division forever.

I was of the same mind at that time but I put it down to TPap not really wanting a negotiated solution. I genuinely thought that with Mr Christofias was going to be different, so I cannot believe the similarity between them. I have not lost complete hope yet though. He may well be agreeing but not telling his rightwing friends just yet and may actually do some good, but I am fast coming to your point of view that this may never be solved.

YFred I dont know what to think about these talks there appears to be a lot of speculation but nothing real concrete I have spoken with people who have taken part in the talks and they appear optimistic, just like the opening of the borders this may erupt over night and we could find ourselves going to another referendum. Only problem with that is both sides will not be prepared and we will get a refusal from either side.

[christos1]

Talat said: “My aim is to achieve a settlement in 2009. But the procedure is moving at a very slow pace. If the hope of settlement vanishes, then my mission will come to an end.” In such a case, Talat said, he would not be a candidate in the elections scheduled in the north for this time next year.

Is that braveness?

It's not just brave it's honest and clean politics.

He is very brave and is reaching the point that I reached after the AP referendum this problem is unsolvable and being honest he placed so much faith in GC "brother" only to have his face slapped time ant ime again. The GC mentality hasshown him that they do not want to share jack shit and demand we capitulate to accepting minority statued under a GC leader in a GC state....this we will never do so the stark truth of the matter is this division will continue forever. Good try but you were doomed to failure you underestimated the GCs will for a solution and misread their "brotherly" camaflouge as a chance to resolve matters, President Talat is the only real chance GCs will ever have in finding a solution, that chance is very fast fading but again they are so blind and stubborn to see this they are doomed to division forever.

I was of the same mind at that time but I put it down to TPap not really wanting a negotiated solution. I genuinely thought that with Mr Christofias was going to be different, so I cannot believe the similarity between them. I have not lost complete hope yet though. He may well be agreeing but not telling his rightwing friends just yet and may actually do some good, but I am fast coming to your point of view that this may never be solved.

Answer my question. Opinion polls suggest that the National Unity Party (UBP), advocating a harder line on reunification talks will win in your so called upcoming election, isnt this the case?

Answer my question, isnt Talat's party also trailing in the so called presidential contest to the UBP? What bravery are we talking about? His party isnt doing well, its a fact. If the TCs thought Talat was brave wouldnt they reward his party with their votes?

[Viewpoint]

Talat in the President not the Prme Minister, do you know the difference?

[YFred]

Talat said: “My aim is to achieve a settlement in 2009. But the procedure is moving at a very slow pace. If the hope of settlement vanishes, then my mission will come to an end.” In such a case, Talat said, he would not be a candidate in the elections scheduled in the north for this time next year.

Is that braveness?

It's not just brave it's honest and clean politics.

He is very brave and is reaching the point that I reached after the AP referendum this problem is unsolvable and being honest he placed so much faith in GC "brother" only to have his face slapped time ant ime again. The GC mentality hasshown him that they do not want to share jack shit and demand we capitulate to accepting minority statued under a GC leader in a GC state....this we will never do so the stark truth of the matter is this division will continue forever. Good try but you were doomed to failure you underestimated the GCs will for a solution and misread their "brotherly" camaflouge as a chance to resolve matters, President Talat is the only real chance GCs will ever have in finding a solution, that chance is very fast fading but again they are so blind and stubborn to see this they are doomed to division forever.

I was of the same mind at that time but I put it down to TPap not really wanting a negotiated solution. I genuinely thought that with Mr Christofias was going to be different, so I cannot believe the similarity between them. I have not lost complete hope yet though. He may well be agreeing but not telling his rightwing friends just yet and may actually do some good, but I am fast coming to your point of view that this may never be solved.

YFred I dont know what to think about these talks there appears to be a lot of speculation but nothing real concrete I have spoken with people who have taken part in the talks and they appear optimistic, just like the opening of the borders this may erupt over night and we could find ourselves going to another referendum. Only problem with that is both sides will not be prepared and we will get a refusal from either side.

I hear the same, the hope we have is that Akel and Disy back this agreement, and the GCs I think will vote for it. However, I think that GCs did not understand the last vote and thought that TC voted for selfish reason. They may well get a rude awakening in the next vote where TCs may vote no this time because they no longer have faith in the EU and the promisses they gave and never kept. Sad but The EU may well have ruined the only chance we get to solve this problem without even realising it.

[christos1]

Talat in the President not the Prme Minister, do you know the difference?

Who are you talking to? Re-read my comment more carefully.

[Viewpoint]

YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

[YFred]

YFred the interest and momentum has been lost in the TRNC, no one takes the EU seriously and dont even have an opinion on the currnt talks as they do not trust the GC in being genuine about wanting to share the island so any new attempt will have to be sold to both sides as withthe current mindset in the north any chnages to the AP will be viewed by TCs as a loss and therefore people will vote NO. Losing the current Government and President will guarantee no talks for the next 5 years.

If Talat can get to the vote before the next presedential elections there is a good chance that the TCs will come onboard. I believe that the grassroots of TCs may be upset, but do want to leave in peace.

[christos1]

From the Turkish Zaman:

Opinion polls suggest that the right-wing National Unity Party (UBP), advocating a harder line on reunification talks, could win the vote. Talat has been negotiating a peace settlement with rival Greek Cypriots since September 2008. The upcoming vote could tip the balance of power in the KKTC.

Talat yesterday gathered with Turkish journalists at a meeting in İstanbul. He was asked about the possible effects of the UBP's recent advance in opinion polls on the ongoing negotiation process with Greek Cypriots.

"I don't know what the result will be. However, the government to be formed has to support the negotiation process. This [negotiation process] is the product of a long process and is a position that has been maintained in coordination with Turkey. If the new government doesn't support it, chaos will emerge," Talat said.

The UBP's policies to date have been unsupportive of reunification talks, but party policies can change after coming to power, Talat also noted.

Christofias says Turkey harming peace talks

A presidential contest is not due until 2010, but the center-left Republican Turks' Party (CTP), which Talat headed before being elected as president, is now the largest in parliament. Opinion polls show it trailing the UBP, however.

Again, if the TCs thought Talat was brave, why not award his party with their votes? What kind of show is being put on here?

[YFred]

From the Turkish Zaman:

Opinion polls suggest that the right-wing National Unity Party (UBP), advocating a harder line on reunification talks, could win the vote. Talat has been negotiating a peace settlement with rival Greek Cypriots since September 2008. The upcoming vote could tip the balance of power in the KKTC.

Talat yesterday gathered with Turkish journalists at a meeting in İstanbul. He was asked about the possible effects of the UBP's recent advance in opinion polls on the ongoing negotiation process with Greek Cypriots.

"I don't know what the result will be. However, the government to be formed has to support the negotiation process. This [negotiation process] is the product of a long process and is a position that has been maintained in coordination with Turkey. If the new government doesn't support it, chaos will emerge," Talat said.

The UBP's policies to date have been unsupportive of reunification talks, but party policies can change after coming to power, Talat also noted.

Christofias says Turkey harming peace talks

A presidential contest is not due until 2010, but the center-left Republican Turks' Party (CTP), which Talat headed before being elected as president, is now the largest in parliament. Opinion polls show it trailing the UBP, however.

Again, if the TCs thought Talat was brave, why not award his party with their votes? What kind of show is being put on here?

You are missing the point. Turkey is on the peace train. Eroglu will not be able to do what Denktash did.