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[insan]

[The wise leaders, all around this world know the truth that since 1963 there is an illegal "occupation" on both sides of the island.

Name one wise leader who holds this view of yours!

All NATO members, besides all others. Annan Plan was the obvious reflection of this view.

[wyoming cowboy]

Simon I agree with you on the topic of warfare, unfortunately its a topic that noone would want to think about for obvious reasons...We have been illegally occuppied for too long. I have said before if insurection began right after the invasion of 74 the problem would have been solved by now, Clerides threatened such action in 74 but Britain assured him that they would place pressure on turkey for withdrawal..Its a difficult decision but i think its inevitable with the current situation, We cannot avoid the tough decisions because it always pops up in front of us..we have to understand this..Greece and Turkey have been fighting a sort of cold war over the Aegean for many decades now. The last thing Turkey would want right now is a hot war with theGreeks..The Kurdish problem is getting worse and the PKK is becoming more suphisticated with their weaponry within Turkey and outside of it...Another reason Turkey would not want to fight in Cyprus is that a war would bring out the truth bright and clear to the world and Turkey's image destroyed even more, then it is now and have virtually no shot of acceptance in the western world. yeah these peons yelp endlessly about turkish military prowess nevertheless the truth is is that Turkey is extremely vulnerable right now and in the foreseeable future..The reason the USA and the western alliance protect the Turks so vehemently is that any attack on Turkey brings it this much closer to destruction. You cannot tell me otherwise, 15 million people of Kurdish descent who abhor living under Turkish rules and laws would not take the chance to fight and gain their independence. And turkey knows this very well and so does the West.

I believe that Turkish nationalist pride will place Cyprus well above a Favoured Nation status that Turkey may or may not receive. I can't see this gaining us many concessions from Turkey.

In any event, we must still be prepared for the alternative, should the need arise.

[Oracle]

[The wise leaders, all around this world know the truth that since 1963 there is an illegal "occupation" on both sides of the island.

Name one wise leader who holds this view of yours!

All NATO members, besides all others. Annan Plan was the obvious reflection of this view.

In your tiny mind ....

Kindly provide some evidence for that, because I have NEVER seen any such assertion ....

[wyoming cowboy]

Even more Simon would the Turks be spewing all their nonsense like this guy Insan if they didnt have the support of the usa and Britain, the majority of the civilized world has recognized the genocide of the Armenians except the usa and Britain. Warfare would cost us a lot for i think we value human life more then they do..but if the situation stays like it is its inevitable that war will come to our doorstep..For instance if the problem stays as is, more settlers from anatolia reach cyprus they begin crossing the green line wouldnt we have to stop them, one incident can spark a war. 20000 50000 100000 anatolians walking around in limassol or nicosia is bound to cause serious problems...thats one example, there are many more...and if we had the bulwark of the turkish cyp against this influx of settlers they themselves are becoming overwhelmed by them, and have no voice....these things should be taken seriously by both sides if they want peace in the future

[The wise leaders, all around this world know the truth that since 1963 there is an illegal "occupation" on both sides of the island.

Name one wise leader who holds this view of yours!

All NATO members, besides all others. Annan Plan was the obvious reflection of this view.

[Bananiot]

Wow, its six now, get the G3's ready.

[Get Real!]

I did say btw guerilla warfare if needs be. I did not say that it is the preferred option. If we can beat them conventionally, I'm all for it.

The idea is to cause enough commotion, 10 or 20 thousand dead from each side, and so much damage, that Turkey will have to pack it in from too much pressure.

The pressure for Greece to join in will escalate by the day, huge riots will take place in major Greek cities calling on their government to assist Cyprus, London will panic at the thought of losing the bases, just as the pressure for the US to stop this before Greece joins in will also add to Turkey’s pressure.

The key ingredient is a HUGE COMMOTION to break the deadlock and liberate Cyprus.

Get Real,
This is a stark staring bonkers proposal and scenario ... a casual "10 or 20 thousand dead" ....

It’s a microscopic price to pay to eliminate the cancer breeding on Cyprus.

[denizaksulu]

I did say btw guerilla warfare if needs be. I did not say that it is the preferred option. If we can beat them conventionally, I'm all for it.

The idea is to cause enough commotion, 10 or 20 thousand dead from each side, and so much damage, that Turkey will have to pack it in from too much pressure.

The pressure for Greece to join in will escalate by the day, huge riots will take place in major Greek cities calling on their government to assist Cyprus, London will panic at the thought of losing the bases, just as the pressure for the US to stop this before Greece joins in will also add to Turkey’s pressure.

The key ingredient is a HUGE COMMOTION to break the deadlock and liberate Cyprus.

Get Real,
This is a stark staring bonkers proposal and scenario ... a casual "10 or 20 thousand dead" ....

It’s a microscopic price to pay to eliminate the cancer breeding on Cyprus.

Will you be leading the 20,000 GR?

[Get Real!]

Will you be leading the 20,000 GR?

Why is that important to you Deniz?

[denizaksulu]

Will you be leading the 20,000 GR?

Why is that important to you Deniz?

Just liked to have a return cup of coffee before hostilities commence. Perhaps we could stop this madness for the people of Cyprus.

Or even 'single armed combat'.

[Get Real!]

Will you be leading the 20,000 GR?

Why is that important to you Deniz?

Just liked to have a return cup of coffee before hostilities commence. Perhaps we could stop this madness for the people of Cyprus.

Or even 'single armed combat'.

That there are some good TCs Deniz, is a undisputed fact but unfortunately there’s just not enough of you, and neither should you expect Cypriots to take this shit forever from Turkey and her TC supporters because 35 years is more than enough time for negotiations.