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[halil]

Halil

RichardB ,

even the jokes puts these warmongers into motivation Sir .... by giving them credit makes them to think they are in right track !!!!! which we will not give them any permission they will have no dare third time again .....

we all suffered in this bloody island ..... just listening they are moaning will not help at all .....

I said and our side said many times ..... today and yesterday we said ....

Cyprus problem did not started from proverty , land or homes problem .... it did started by not excepting Turkish Cypriots as a equal partner in old ROC .

Killing , murdering and other things were stoped in 1960 ..... so what happened in 3 years ..... we are very carefull this time .... we never wanting to have old times again in our lives ..... we are patient , we have lost so many lives ....so GC's lost as well .... our aim is not to have it again .... If they things they can solve this problem with guns they are going to make big mistake again .... it was tried in 1963-1967 and it did tried at morning of 15 july 1974 ..... what happened ??? present time .... now we are living in it and talking everyday behind the keyboards or in our living time .


we have reasones by asking bi_zonal ,bi_communal federal solution in Cyprus .... it got to be solve out by talks ..... if it takes time it will take ....

but those people are thinking that they can get over by military solution they are making big mistake again .... it is not joke at all .

Halil my comments came from a post by a TC (Yfred) who accused me of wanting to be part of a group who advocated war against the TCs

I asked him to substantiate these accusations - which he still has not ( and will never be able to) done

I have always argued that the Cyprus problem should be solved around the negotiating table and if ANYONE can prove otherwise then I will leave this forum with my apologies to all concerned.

As you know I have Cypriot (GC) family connections and I stated that in the event of an outbreak of hostilities then i would support the GC cause.

I am sure that you in the event (god forbid) of hostilities breking out would support the TC side

you see RichardB ,

difference between your idea and mine .... i am not talking about using force .... i am saying defending ..... lots of difference ... if i m not wrong if they attack us u will be in your wife side .... we are talking about attacks ..... İ don't support to attacks . what for we will attack .... to get more land .... no my friend .... our problem is not the land in Cyprus ..... We want security and equal power sharing in Cyprus . Many times it was said by our side also it was said when the right times comes in Cyprus troops will go back to Turkey ... it was said by top general last visit to Cyprus as well ... it was front of the TV cameras ... before the ledra (Lokmaci) gate opened . Turkey and TC's are asking symbolic Turkish and Greek Troops will stay (650-950 ratio as like 1960 agreement also guarantees)

both sides might have different arguments for above .... everyones has own arguments and resones we must have respect to eachother arguments .... when we have respect to eachother arguments i am sure we can find the midleway for it but not saying by military solution .... we must not forget that Turkey is not sleeping . They are monitoring very well us . About GC'S side arming they said Those guns if u are buying for us it is not enough but for TC's it is too much .... from these words we must very clearly understand that Turkey took all necessary actiones about arming of the GC's side ..... which is very bad for future of the island ....

[Viewpoint]

It is scum like you the problem. We Cypriots have no problem with each other. It is you Turks who invaded our island and brought your foreign Settlers and want to steal our land who created the problem. How could there be any problem in Cyprus if there was no Turkish invasions and no Turkish Settlers?? When you Turks first invaded you divided the people into Christians and Muslims. You are talking about creating "division" as if we were ever united. We were always divided. We the Cypriots on one side, and you the foreign invaders on the other. It was like that since the day you foreigners came to our island.

You are not only a scum bag but also a racist....we are no foreign to Cyprus that you, we to have rights and unlessyou acknowledge this fact and come to terms with the fact that you have to share this island equally you will keep this island divided for ever.

You are calling me racist you fucking invading shit? If it wasn't for your barbarian invasions my island would be a modern European country with no problems at all. It is your expansionism against our island which created all the problems. You had rights in Republic of Cyprus until you gave them up when you declared some pseudo state which is recognized by nobody else. As you can see now you have no rights in Republic of Cyprus, and the only thing you have is that you illegally keep under occupation 1/3rd of our island. All that is left is to apply legality and order and we are done with you.

It was shit like you that forced us out of the "RoC" and made us fight for our lives, your idea of our rights was Akritas. If it wasnt for your need to give Cyprus away we would all be united living as Cypriots but you fucked up big time, you had a hidden agendas which if we agreed would have meant us signing our own death warrant so we fought back, which will do everytime if you try to make us do something we do not want to do.

Yes we have taken part of this island as a safe haven from the discrimiation and persecution you forced upon me, this is how it will stay because morons like you do not understand that you have to share equally and not one sided, but filth like you will never understand what this means so rather than waste my time trying to explain this to someone who is just a continuation of those fanatics that brought us to the current situation ı will say go to hell and do you worst because you confirm why we will stay divided.

[bill cobbett]

Halil

RichardB ,

even the jokes puts these warmongers into motivation Sir .... by giving them credit makes them to think they are in right track !!!!! which we will not give them any permission they will have no dare third time again .....

we all suffered in this bloody island ..... just listening they are moaning will not help at all .....

I said and our side said many times ..... today and yesterday we said ....

Cyprus problem did not started from proverty , land or homes problem .... it did started by not excepting Turkish Cypriots as a equal partner in old ROC .

Killing , murdering and other things were stoped in 1960 ..... so what happened in 3 years ..... we are very carefull this time .... we never wanting to have old times again in our lives ..... we are patient , we have lost so many lives ....so GC's lost as well .... our aim is not to have it again .... If they things they can solve this problem with guns they are going to make big mistake again .... it was tried in 1963-1967 and it did tried at morning of 15 july 1974 ..... what happened ??? present time .... now we are living in it and talking everyday behind the keyboards or in our living time .


we have reasones by asking bi_zonal ,bi_communal federal solution in Cyprus .... it got to be solve out by talks ..... if it takes time it will take ....

but those people are thinking that they can get over by military solution they are making big mistake again .... it is not joke at all .

Halil my comments came from a post by a TC (Yfred) who accused me of wanting to be part of a group who advocated war against the TCs

I asked him to substantiate these accusations - which he still has not ( and will never be able to) done

I have always argued that the Cyprus problem should be solved around the negotiating table and if ANYONE can prove otherwise then I will leave this forum with my apologies to all concerned.

As you know I have Cypriot (GC) family connections and I stated that in the event of an outbreak of hostilities then i would support the GC cause.

I am sure that you in the event (god forbid) of hostilities breking out would support the TC side

you see RichardB ,

difference between your idea and mine .... i am not talking about using force .... i am saying defending ..... lots of difference ... if i m not wrong if they attack us u will be in your wife side .... we are talking about attacks ..... İ don't support to attacks . what for we will attack .... to get more land .... no my friend .... our problem is not the land in Cyprus ..... We want security and equal power sharing in Cyprus . Many times it was said by our side also it was said when the right times comes in Cyprus troops will go back to Turkey ... it was said by top general last visit to Cyprus as well ... it was front of the TV cameras ... before the ledra (Lokmaci) gate opened . Turkey and TC's are asking symbolic Turkish and Greek Troops will stay (650-950 ratio as like 1960 agreement also guarantees)

both sides might have different arguments for above .... everyones has own arguments and resones we must have respect to eachother arguments .... when we have respect to eachother arguments i am sure we can find the midleway for it but not saying by military solution .... we must not forget that Turkey is not sleeping . They are monitoring very well us . About GC'S side arming they said Those guns if u are buying for us it is not enough but for TC's it is too much .... from these words we must very clearly understand that Turkey took all necessary actiones about arming of the GC's side ..... which is very bad for future of the island ....

My dear brother Halil,

When some of us post, we too are defending. We defend such things as free expression and human rights in the whole island, in the whole territory of the Republic.

Please let's have less of this provocative and unhelpful military jingoism.

[Simon]

Halil,

Turkey is a brutal, aggressive, foreign invader. You talk as if you are Mother Theresa against the evil GCs. Sometimes I cannot believe what I am reading!! What do you expect, Cypriots to bend over and take it up the arse forever, whilst we look at that huge TURKISH flag on our mountains!!!!!!

YOU PEOPLE MUST BE RETARDED IF YOU THINK WE WILL GIVE UP CYPRUS WITHOUT A FIGHT

[Oracle]

.... i am saying defending ...

... bloody more "defence" where that came from!

45,000 Turkish soldiers on a small EU-Med Island

[Simon]

Copperline, there are so many flaws in the utter nonsense you keep repeating...

1) Where have I ever said that private citizens should attack the Republic of Turkey?

2) Where have I planned any attack, in agreement with another? Think carefully now. English law clearly states that for it to be a "conspiracy" the agreement must be beyond mere "contemplation" but in the "preparatory" stage. You really have no clue what you are talking about. That link you copied and pasted earlier in reference to Piratis proved nothing, because those particular two were cleared of any terrorism charges, even if their interrogation was excessive.

I am talking about the RoC liberating its land. Your "conspiracy" talk falls down on one simple point. A "conspiracy" is to perform an ILLEGAL act. What can be illegal about citizens of a sovereign state discussing the rights and wrongs of their state using military force (as a last resort) to liberate it from an ILLEGAL occupation?

[turkkan]

Turkey is a brutal, aggressive, foreign invader. You talk as if you are Mother Theresa against the evil GCs. Sometimes I cannot believe what I am reading!! What do you expect, Cypriots to bend over and take it up the arse forever, whilst we look at that huge TURKISH flag on our mountains!!!!!!

YOU PEOPLE MUST BE RETARDED IF YOU THINK WE WILL GIVE UP CYPRUS WITHOUT A FIGHT

You fought and lost in 74, right now your spending every night in our brothels and casinos. Spare us the leonidas talk.

[Simon]

Easy to boast when you needed Turkey to fight for you. We wasn't prepared for the war last time. We will be next time. And I don't spend any nights in your dirty casinos or brothels.

[Oracle]

Turkey is a brutal, aggressive, foreign invader. You talk as if you are Mother Theresa against the evil GCs. Sometimes I cannot believe what I am reading!! What do you expect, Cypriots to bend over and take it up the arse forever, whilst we look at that huge TURKISH flag on our mountains!!!!!!

YOU PEOPLE MUST BE RETARDED IF YOU THINK WE WILL GIVE UP CYPRUS WITHOUT A FIGHT

You fought and lost in 74, right now your spending every night in our brothels and casinos. Spare us the leonidas talk.

Are you suggesting that is the only service the TCs are able to offer the world?

Brothels?

[turkkan]

Easy to boast when you needed Turkey to fight for you. We wasn't prepared for the war last time. We will be next time.

And we arent prepared? Take a look at turkeys current armament programs and its indigenous defence industry before you threaten us with war over the internet. The only way you would ever stand any chance whatsoever would be if with the help of greece you carried out a massive all front attack on turkey and the TRNC. Given the vast mobilisations you will require before such an operation in both countries it can safely be confined to imagination land. I do hope you impress some girls with your rhetoric though- should get you a handjob or two from some patriotic teenager.

Are you suggesting that is the only service the TCs are able to offer the world?

Brothels?

Yes it is, must be shitty sharing an island with us. Oh well.