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[YFred]

You are not that lucky YFred. The moron meant just me. I feel like dead meat already but i cannot prosecute him because he directed his comments at "all those concerned". May be he will get braver later on and perhaps post a photo of him in his next post. After all he is a brave man.

For u Bananiot!

Bedrakimu, I've seen you somewhere before, just can't remeber it for a moment, but I am sure it'll come to me sooner or later.

Hint: Disneyland!

But I've never been there even as a kid. I spent most of my childhood inprisoned by the RoC in sunny Lurucina-by-Sea. And I am almost certain you weren't there. There was a greek guy there called Socrates, its not you is it?

[Piratis]

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For starters we should invest money in the education of the Kurdish children that live abroad (millions of them) and help them to create an even stronger national Kurdish identity. We will help the educated Kurds to teach the rest of their population about Kurdistan and about the right for freedom from the Turkish oppressors.
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Just curious, do you plan to educate all of these Kurdish children in the Kurmanji or Sorani dialect of Kurdish, which are mutually incomprehensible, or in both of these depending on which dialect they speak? If you do the later, perhaps you will only stress how heterogenous the people who are classified together as Kurdish really are and defeat your own purpose.

What about speakers of languages such as Zaza and Gurani, considered by many chauvenistic Kurds to be dialects of Kurdish but considered to be languages in their own right by most of the people who speak these languages? Do you plan to teach their children Kurdish, too, and if so which dialect? It is interesting to note that when in Germany, which has a policy of giving immigrant children some instruction in their native languages in state schools, the children of Zaza speakers were forced to learn Kurmaji Kurdish their parents protested strongly and succeeded in having them taught Turkish instead.

I get the feeling you have only ever spoken to Kurdish refugees from Turkey living in the West, and that is why you have such a perverse understanding of the Kurdish question in Turkey. Many of these refugees are really economic migrants and exploit their Kurdish ethnicity to get assylum. For this reason, they have to make it appear that they are commited to the Kurdish national cause and that they suffered oppression back home. I have reason to believe that quite a few citizens of the Republic of Turkey who claim to be Kurds in order to get assylum are not even Kurds. In the UK, interpreting facilities are available for assylum seekers in both Turkish and Kurdish. It is odd that so many assylum seekers claiming to be Kurdish opt for Turkish interpreters. I have worked in pulic service interpreting in the UK, so I know from experience.

Actually, the main fault line in Anatolia that has created tension and lead to outbreaks of conflict over the past four centuries is neither the dispute between Turks and Kurds nor between Islamists and Secularists, but another. And you don't know what it is. What a shame.

Tim, what I said was about funding, not that I will go there and give them the lessons myself. If they have a few differences between them it will not matter, because a common aim and a common enemy will be more than enough to unite them.

If you know of any other divisions within Turkey let me know.

[kurupetos]

You are not that lucky YFred. The moron meant just me. I feel like dead meat already but i cannot prosecute him because he directed his comments at "all those concerned". May be he will get braver later on and perhaps post a photo of him in his next post. After all he is a brave man.

For u Bananiot!

Bedrakimu, I've seen you somewhere before, just can't remeber it for a moment, but I am sure it'll come to me sooner or later.

Hint: Disneyland!

But I've never been there even as a kid. I spent most of my childhood inprisoned by the RoC in sunny Lurucina-by-Sea. And I am almost certain you weren't there. There was a greek guy there called Socrates, its not you is it?

No, my name is Petros (some call me Petris!). Anyway, I have to go to work now. See u tomorrow!

[Piratis]

It is lucky that this is a joke thread in which Get Real, Simon et. al are just taking the piss out of themselves or else many contributors on this thread could be charged with conspiracy.

You think that I'm joking ? All of those of you posting from the UK or other EU countries might like to know that there are dozens of British citizens currently serving jail sentences under 'anti-terror' legislation for expressing far milder suggestions about the possible use of violence.

This is not true in our case. If it was true, then we would be able to put in jail every Turk who supports the so called "trnc" and the illegal Turkish occupation, which is forced by means of brute force and terror, against the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

We are in war with Turkey (just in a cease fire right now) and no EU country would take the side of Turkey in this war.

If you want you can call as terrorists the separatists Kurds and TCs, but in our case we are talking about the ongoing war between Cyprus and Turkey.

[christos1]

Son of a bitch, this EOKA killed

Compromised principles for personal gain? that is you and your ilk. Geez Bana, i guess this means we are no longer friends.

EOKA killed foreign troops. If there were no foreign troops EOKA would not have existed.

The only war we will embark on is against the war mongers ...

Oh come on, Bana. The only war you should embark on is the war on fashion and uhh, the war on weight loss.

You crack me up. Does anyone have that group photo of Bana showing his fat, wobbling belly bulging over his short shorts? You know, the one where he is wearing his black socks with brown sandals?

[Viewpoint]

It is lucky that this is a joke thread in which Get Real, Simon et. al are just taking the piss out of themselves or else many contributors on this thread could be charged with conspiracy.

You think that I'm joking ? All of those of you posting from the UK or other EU countries might like to know that there are dozens of British citizens currently serving jail sentences under 'anti-terror' legislation for expressing far milder suggestions about the possible use of violence.

This is not true in our case. If it was true, then we would be able to put in jail every Turk who supports the so called "trnc" and the illegal Turkish occupation, which is forced by means of brute force and terror, against the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

We are in war with Turkey (just in a cease fire right now) and no EU country would take the side of Turkey in this war.

If you want you can call as terrorists the separatists Kurds and TCs, but in our case we are talking about the ongoing war between Cyprus and Turkey.

Piratis you do not have the balls to attack GCs are all talk no action. But dont cry like today when you get smashed to pieces yet again.

[RichardB]

I think that you are seriously lacking in legal knowledge Copperline if you believe that what I have said in this thread constitutes "a conspiracy".

I think that you are seriously lacking in legal knowledge Simon if you believe that what you have said in this thread cannot be prosecuted as "conspiracy" - this kind of thing - and much less - has been successfully been prosecuted as "conspiracy to ...." [fill in the gap] Conspiracy requires an astonishingly low threshold of evidence (scandalously low, imoh), but there you have it.

CopperLine, leave our brave volunteers alone. If they want to incriminate themselves, they are free to do it. It is their human right.

You can add Bill and Richard to that list for suggesting to kill me and throw me into the Girne sea tied to a concrete block.

I have one question for you, has Boomerang committed similar offences?

Oi Shithead I go to the mountains to return and find out I'm being invited to participate in a fuckin' war!!!

FYI I have never advocated the use of violence as the means to an end , negotiations are always preferable to gain an outcome.

However I will say that if there was no other solution (God forbid )
Then yes I would assist in the fight for a free Cyprus in what ever little way I could , for fucks sake man i'm 53 and have seen more than enough blood for one lifetime ( oh copperline if this constitutes a terrorist threat then I stand guilty)

Re your other comment that I have threatened to kill you I ask one thing of you PROVE THIS Now put up or get the fuc* out of here

I am waiting

[Sotos]

It is lucky that this is a joke thread in which Get Real, Simon et. al are just taking the piss out of themselves or else many contributors on this thread could be charged with conspiracy.

You think that I'm joking ? All of those of you posting from the UK or other EU countries might like to know that there are dozens of British citizens currently serving jail sentences under 'anti-terror' legislation for expressing far milder suggestions about the possible use of violence.

This is not true in our case. If it was true, then we would be able to put in jail every Turk who supports the so called "trnc" and the illegal Turkish occupation, which is forced by means of brute force and terror, against the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

We are in war with Turkey (just in a cease fire right now) and no EU country would take the side of Turkey in this war.

If you want you can call as terrorists the separatists Kurds and TCs, but in our case we are talking about the ongoing war between Cyprus and Turkey.

Piratis you do not have the balls to attack GCs are all talk no action. But dont cry like today when you get smashed to pieces yet again.

Many foreign invaders like you passed from Cyprus. No matter what you do we are the Cypriots, you are foreigners, and sooner or later our island will be free from the Turkish invaders and the Turkish Settlers they brought to our island with their two invasions. Until then rot in the pseudo state and cry for the isolation

[Viewpoint]

It is lucky that this is a joke thread in which Get Real, Simon et. al are just taking the piss out of themselves or else many contributors on this thread could be charged with conspiracy.

You think that I'm joking ? All of those of you posting from the UK or other EU countries might like to know that there are dozens of British citizens currently serving jail sentences under 'anti-terror' legislation for expressing far milder suggestions about the possible use of violence.

This is not true in our case. If it was true, then we would be able to put in jail every Turk who supports the so called "trnc" and the illegal Turkish occupation, which is forced by means of brute force and terror, against the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

We are in war with Turkey (just in a cease fire right now) and no EU country would take the side of Turkey in this war.

If you want you can call as terrorists the separatists Kurds and TCs, but in our case we are talking about the ongoing war between Cyprus and Turkey.

Piratis you do not have the balls to attack GCs are all talk no action. But dont cry like today when you get smashed to pieces yet again.

Many foreign invaders like you passed from Cyprus. No matter what you do we are the Cypriots, you are foreigners, and sooner or later our island will be free from the Turkish invaders and the Turkish Settlers they brought to our island with their two invasions. Until then rot in the pseudo state and cry for the isolation

Dream on you shit head war monger trash...name calling is easy. The TRNC is preferred 1000 times more than living with scum like you.

[CopperLine]

It is lucky that this is a joke thread in which Get Real, Simon et. al are just taking the piss out of themselves or else many contributors on this thread could be charged with conspiracy.

You think that I'm joking ? All of those of you posting from the UK or other EU countries might like to know that there are dozens of British citizens currently serving jail sentences under 'anti-terror' legislation for expressing far milder suggestions about the possible use of violence.

This is not true in our case. If it was true, then we would be able to put in jail every Turk who supports the so called "trnc" and the illegal Turkish occupation, which is forced by means of brute force and terror, against the laws of the Republic of Cyprus.

We are in war with Turkey (just in a cease fire right now) and no EU country would take the side of Turkey in this war.

If you want you can call as terrorists the separatists Kurds and TCs, but in our case we are talking about the ongoing war between Cyprus and Turkey.

Those remarks Piratis just confirm what a fantastical parallel world you inhabit.

Is Cyprus a member of the EU or not ? Since it is then one of the 'prices paid' for membership is that EU law and the law of other EU states interferes in domestic jurisdictions. So when you say that 'this is not true in our case' you are 180 degrees from reality.

You maybe at war with Turkey but citizens or foreigners in the UK posting on this forum are not at war with Turkey and to incite people to violence, to plan acts of violence against Turkey (or other states) is subject to the provisions of various laws in the UK. Other EU states have pretty similar laws. (I make no comment on RoC anti-terror laws since I don't know what they might be or their form, but that doesn't mean that citizens of Cyprus now also citizens of the EU are not immune from other EU national laws or EU law).

Cyprus may only have a ceasefire with Turkey but if you as a private citizen kill a Turk claiming it was an act of war do you think the Cyprus state will treat you (a) as a murderer under RoC criminal law or (b) as a soldier ? Will other EU states treat you as (c) a murderer or (d) as a soldier ? I can say this with certainty : in the second set you will be treated as (c) a murderer. In the first set you will not be treated as a soldier (as b) and the odds are that you would be treated a (a). If you weren't then there would be serious repercussions within and for RoC law.