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Did the US threaten to sink the Greek Navy?

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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:57 pm

Simon wrote:Not only would it have been crazy for Turkey to attack American ships, but suicidal! I wish they had.

Y-Fred, I have told you why I think Greece did not intervene. Because I have heard that the US threatened the Greek fleet. Also, the Greeks heard Bulgarian invasion rumours, and the government was in chaos. There was huge anglo-american pressure to avoid a Greco-Turkish war. All these reasons may have contributed to Greece's inaction. Just because 2 countries are members of NATO, it does not mean their equipment is always of the same standard. For example, today, Greece has more modern F-16 fighters than Turkey (the Block D variety).

Greece could have attacked Turkey without the need for ships, Why didn't they. They mobilised, sent the troops to the border and stopped.
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:59 pm

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Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


What you forget is that the nearest land in Asia Minor also belonged to the Greeks and all the cities on the west coast of Asia Minor are made by Greeks. Just because you stole the land it doesn't mean you should get the islands near it. :roll: A better calculation to use is that the island belongs where the native islanders want it to belong.

No, it should belong to the earliest invaders, so how far do we go back? Just upto when the Greeks invaded or before, who willl decide?
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Postby Simon » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:02 pm

Y-Fred I have already answered that question. Besides, attacking Turkey would not have stopped an invasion of Cyprus, so what would have been the point? The shooting that Greece was considering in Thrace would have been a distraction, to enable Greece to help Cyprus more effectively.

On the islands point, I think the landmass should belong to the nearest island. :roll:
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:05 pm

Simon wrote:Y-Fred I have already answered that question.

On the islands point, I think the landmass should belong to the nearest island. :roll:

There was no need for the ships to come out of port.

On the islands point at least you are hellenically consistant.
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Postby Simon » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:07 pm

There was if Greece was to prevent a successful invasion, which was its aim. Not to occupy Thrace.
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Postby RichardB » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:21 pm

YFred wrote:
Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


So using this wise principle then Ireland belongs to GB (sorry tessintrnc)

Which in turn belongs to France!!

NZ probably belongs to Australia!!

which in turn would probably belong to somewhere in Asia (sorry havnt got an atlas to hand)

The mans an absolute Genius :roll:
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:27 pm

RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


So using this wise principle then Ireland belongs to GB (sorry tessintrnc)

Which in turn belongs to France!!

NZ probably belongs to Australia!!

which in turn would probably belong to somewhere in Asia (sorry havnt got an atlas to hand)

The mans an absolute Genius :roll:

Yep, and Falklands belong to Britain. There are always exceptions to every rule.
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Postby RichardB » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:35 pm

YFred wrote:
RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


So using this wise principle then Ireland belongs to GB (sorry tessintrnc)

Which in turn belongs to France!!

NZ probably belongs to Australia!!

which in turn would probably belong to somewhere in Asia (sorry havnt got an atlas to hand)

The mans an absolute Genius :roll:

Yep, and Falklands belong to Britain. There are always exceptions to every rule.


But Cyprus is not an Island belonging to anyone, it is an Independent Democratic Republic belonging to no body except the Cypriot people
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:44 pm

RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


So using this wise principle then Ireland belongs to GB (sorry tessintrnc)

Which in turn belongs to France!!

NZ probably belongs to Australia!!

which in turn would probably belong to somewhere in Asia (sorry havnt got an atlas to hand)

The mans an absolute Genius :roll:

Yep, and Falklands belong to Britain. There are always exceptions to every rule.


But Cyprus is not an Island belonging to anyone, it is an Independent Democratic Republic belonging to no body except the Cypriot people

I know who Cyprus belongs to, explain that to Piratis, Oracle and Yalusas of this world.
How many countries do you know that have islands less than a few miles a way and does not belong to them. There are some but not a lot.
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Postby RichardB » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:49 pm

YFred wrote:
RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
RichardB wrote:
YFred wrote:
Sotos wrote:You Central Asian Mongolian Barbarian, what is "so called" is "Turkey".

I use a simple calculation, the island belongs to the nearest main land. Very simple really and most of the time its true except with the Greeks and the British.


So using this wise principle then Ireland belongs to GB (sorry tessintrnc)

Which in turn belongs to France!!

NZ probably belongs to Australia!!

which in turn would probably belong to somewhere in Asia (sorry havnt got an atlas to hand)

The mans an absolute Genius :roll:

Yep, and Falklands belong to Britain. There are always exceptions to every rule.


But Cyprus is not an Island belonging to anyone, it is an Independent Democratic Republic belonging to no body except the Cypriot people

I know who Cyprus belongs to, explain that to Piratis, Oracle and Yalusas of this world.
How many countries do you know that have islands less than a few miles a way and does not belong to them. There are some but not a lot.


Then why the silly comment fred?

I do not have to explain to anyone that this Island belongs to Cypriots

It is up to the Cypriots to decide their future not Greece or Turkey or anyone else The Cypriot electorate will decide the future of the Island they will elect the goverment to represent thier will.

As for your comment re Islands belonging to other nations I would actually suggest that most Islands do not belong to the nearest large country but i'll be buggered if i'm going to research this pretty silly point
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