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Tcs go to ECHR for EU parliament elections

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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:19 pm

DT. wrote:
CopperLine wrote:
Do you not see that if the TCs show willingness and GC do same as last time, TCs may get isolation removed anyway sooner rather than later?


Maybe. But how might this removal of isolation happen ?


COpperline asks a fair question Yfred. How would it happen?

Individual countries, unilaterally like in Kosovo and Taiwan.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:16 am

Does anybody know which is this agreement saying that 2 out of the 6 EU MPs representing Cyprus in the EU parliament, must be separately and exclusively elected by the Turkish Cypriots? As far as I know, there is no such provision in the treaty of Cyprus EU accession, in which the total number of MPs for Cyprus was agreed. Where have these two fellows found such a provision, and they even go to the EU Court of Justice for this? How absurd indeed!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:40 am

Kifeas wrote:Does anybody know which is this agreement saying that 2 out of the 6 EU MPs representing Cyprus in the EU parliament, must be separately and exclusively elected by the Turkish Cypriots? As far as I know, there is no such provision in the treaty of Cyprus EU accession, in which the total number of MPs for Cyprus was agreed. Where have these two fellows found such a provision, and they even go to the EU Court of Justice for this? How absurd indeed!


Your constitution 70% 30% split.
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Postby Kifeas » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:49 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kifeas wrote:Does anybody know which is this agreement saying that 2 out of the 6 EU MPs representing Cyprus in the EU parliament, must be separately and exclusively elected by the Turkish Cypriots? As far as I know, there is no such provision in the treaty of Cyprus EU accession, in which the total number of MPs for Cyprus was agreed. Where have these two fellows found such a provision, and they even go to the EU Court of Justice for this? How absurd indeed!


Your constitution 70% 30% split.


The RoC constitution calls for a 70:30 participation in the RoC parliament, not in the EU parliament! Besides that, a 4:2 split is 66:33, and not 70:30.
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Re: Tcs go to ECHR for EU parliament elections

Postby RAFAELLA » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:59 am

CopperLine wrote:Rafaella,
An interesting article for sure. But why do you give the thread title as "TCs go to ECHR for EU parliament elections" when the article clearly says, including in the article title itself, that Turkish Cypriots went to the EUROPEAN COURT OF JUSTICE. Two totally different courts created by two totally different institutions with different membership sets.


You are correct CL. I rushed for a short title and I made a mistake.
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Postby limasol » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:25 pm

There are two seperate poll registers in the Republic of Cyprus according to the Cyprus Constitution

The population of the Greek Cypriots do not give them 6 MEP's but only 4. The Greek Cypriots only obtained 6 MEP by including the population of the Turkish Cypriots

The Turkish Cypriots were expelled from Limassol, Paphos and Larnaka by the invading Greek Natioanal Guard all Turkish Cypriot able men of Paphos, Limassol and Larnaka were taken as POW

The Greek Cypriot Republic can not claim to be the legal representative of all Cyprus. Altough it is recognised by the rest of the world as the only legitimate government it does not change the fact on the ground that since the Turkish Cypriots do not recognise them as their government they have no option but continue their fake claim that they are the only legitimate govenment of all Cyprus. It is time the Greek Cypriots wake up to the reality that they are only the govenment of themselves not the Turkish Cypriots and never will be.
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:35 pm

limasol wrote:There are two seperate poll registers in the Republic of Cyprus according to the Cyprus Constitution

The population of the Greek Cypriots do not give them 6 MEP's but only 4. The Greek Cypriots only obtained 6 MEP by including the population of the Turkish Cypriots

The Turkish Cypriots were expelled from Limassol, Paphos and Larnaka by the invading Greek Natioanal Guard all Turkish Cypriot able men of Paphos, Limassol and Larnaka were taken as POW

The Greek Cypriot Republic can not claim to be the legal representative of all Cyprus. Altough it is recognised by the rest of the world as the only legitimate government it does not change the fact on the ground that since the Turkish Cypriots do not recognise them as their government they have no option but continue their fake claim that they are the only legitimate govenment of all Cyprus. It is time the Greek Cypriots wake up to the reality that they are only the govenment of themselves not the Turkish Cypriots and never will be.

Welcome to the forum Limasol, but be prepared there are lots of Eoka-crap members that will attack you relentlessly. Be prepared. They are oblivious to the plight of the TCs not only before and during 74 but since then too. At the same time there are some decent GCs on the forum.
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Postby limasol » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:27 pm

Thank you YFred

EOKA or non EOKA members it makes no differcence as long as we have rational arguments we stand firm on our ground

and that is where it all counts THE GROUND
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Postby Oracle » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:31 pm

limasol wrote:Altough it is recognised by the rest of the world as the only legitimate government it does not change the fact on the ground that since the Turkish Cypriots do not recognise them as their government they have no option but continue their fake claim that they are the only legitimate govenment of all Cyprus..


It seems you have run your own argument to The Ground, since you contradict yourself right there, within the same sentence.
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 20, 2009 8:34 pm

limasol wrote:There are two seperate poll registers in the Republic of Cyprus according to the Cyprus Constitution

The population of the Greek Cypriots do not give them 6 MEP's but only 4. The Greek Cypriots only obtained 6 MEP by including the population of the Turkish Cypriots

The Turkish Cypriots were expelled from Limassol, Paphos and Larnaka by the invading Greek Natioanal Guard all Turkish Cypriot able men of Paphos, Limassol and Larnaka were taken as POW

The Greek Cypriot Republic can not claim to be the legal representative of all Cyprus. Altough it is recognised by the rest of the world as the only legitimate government it does not change the fact on the ground that since the Turkish Cypriots do not recognise them as their governm
ent they have no option but continue their fake claim that they are the only legitimate govenment of all Cyprus. It is time the Greek Cypriots wake up to the reality that they are only the govenment of themselves not the Turkish Cypriots and never will be.


FIrst post and you post crap....please see below. 6 is the minimum number you kebab.

http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/get ... anguage=EN

The European Parliament shall be composed of representatives of the Union’s
citizens. They shall not exceed 750 in number. Representation of citizens shall be
degressively proportional, with a minimum threshold of six members per Member
State. No Member State shall be allocated more than 96 seats.
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