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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:33 pm

Kikapu wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.
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Postby insan » Fri Mar 20, 2009 9:36 pm

Nikitas wrote:Remember what George Ball had told major Packard back in 1964?

"Son, you don't get it, do you! The name of the game is partition."

That was the policy then, it is still the US policy now.


As long as GC policy was/is Enosis/Majority Rule; why should not US had/has partition policy to fix Cyprus problem?
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:09 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.


You may be surprised to know, but many private citizens get an invite to Washington and the White House for many different reasons and not just heads of states. Talat can claim to be the head of state if Hillary addresses him as the President of The TRNC, and if not, then he is only there as a leader of the TC's and not on any official state visit, which makes him a Private Citizen. Even Palestinian leaders are greeted with official state visits and addressed as a President, even though it is not a recognised state. Lets see if Talat will get the same recognition as any of the present or former leaders of the Palestinian people going back 60 years. My money says, Talat will be treated as the leader of the TC's and nothing else.!
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Postby YFred » Fri Mar 20, 2009 10:19 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.


You may be surprised to know, but many private citizens get an invite to Washington and the White House for many different reasons and not just heads of states. Talat can claim to be the head of state if Hillary addresses him as the President of The TRNC, and if not, then he is only there as a leader of the TC's and not on any official state visit, which makes him a Private Citizen. Even Palestinian leaders are greeted with official state visits and addressed as a President, even though it is not a recognised state. Lets see if Talat will get the same recognition as any of the present or former leaders of the Palestinian people going back 60 years. My money says, Talat will be treated as the leader of the TC's and nothing else.!

How can we find out how she greets him?
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Postby DT. » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:02 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.


You may be surprised to know, but many private citizens get an invite to Washington and the White House for many different reasons and not just heads of states. Talat can claim to be the head of state if Hillary addresses him as the President of The TRNC, and if not, then he is only there as a leader of the TC's and not on any official state visit, which makes him a Private Citizen. Even Palestinian leaders are greeted with official state visits and addressed as a President, even though it is not a recognised state. Lets see if Talat will get the same recognition as any of the present or former leaders of the Palestinian people going back 60 years. My money says, Talat will be treated as the leader of the TC's and nothing else.!

How can we find out how she greets him?


I can tell you from now if you like. In the next 30 days do you envisage the US recognising the pseudostate? If not then he will be seen as a private citizen. If you think the entire geopolitics of the area will turn a complete 180 degrees and Ossama Bin Laden becomes a new born christian then she'll see him as a president.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:14 pm

REPORTS yesterday indicated the Turkish government was pulling strings to get Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat an audience with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington next week.

A number of news reports yesterday cited diplomatic sources saying that Turkish Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan was pushing for a meeting between Talat and Clinton in an effort to boost his ratings before ‘parliamentary’ elections in the north, set for April 19.

Recent polls show that Talat’s Turkish Republican Party trails by some distance the resurging National Unity Party (UBP), headed by hardliner Dervis Eroglu.

If Talat does secure an audience with Clinton, it will be seen as a huge coup for the Turkish Cypriot leadership, though it won’t be the first time that Talat gets a date with a US Secretary of State.

Talat was invited to Washington just after the Greek Cypriot rejection of the Annan Plan in 2004, where the then Secretary of State Colin Powell did his best to make him feel welcome, addressing Talat as “Mr Prime Minister”.

This in stark contrast to the level of contact between the US government and the President of the Republic of Cyprus, where the latter has yet to receive the much sought-after invite to the US capital.

It is believed Talat will also meet with UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon on his travels though neither report has been officially confirmed.

The meeting with Clinton was reportedly proposed by Erdogan when Clinton visited Ankara earlier this month.

Acting DISY spokesman Harris Georgiades said the prospect of such a meeting, along with President Barack Obama’s planned visit to Turkey next month, should “trouble” the Greek Cypriot leadership into making alliances in the international arena.

Erdogan told a Turkish news channel that the Cyprus problem would be on the agenda when Obama visits. The Turkish leadership is expected to seek the lifting of the “isolation” of the Turkish Cypriots.

Government Spokesman Stefanos Stefanou said the government was aware of Talat’s efforts to arrange a visit to Washington to meet Clinton, noting, however, that nothing had been confirmed yet.

“We are monitoring the issue and those who must act are acting,” said Stefanou.

The spokesman noted that it was too early to make conclusions.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:24 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.


You may be surprised to know, but many private citizens get an invite to Washington and the White House for many different reasons and not just heads of states. Talat can claim to be the head of state if Hillary addresses him as the President of The TRNC, and if not, then he is only there as a leader of the TC's and not on any official state visit, which makes him a Private Citizen. Even Palestinian leaders are greeted with official state visits and addressed as a President, even though it is not a recognised state. Lets see if Talat will get the same recognition as any of the present or former leaders of the Palestinian people going back 60 years. My money says, Talat will be treated as the leader of the TC's and nothing else.!

How can we find out how she greets him?


Last time I looked, they had TV cameras in the US, so if Hillary wants to greet Talat as the President of the TRNC, she can do it on camera, and then you will get to find out also, that's how we will know.!
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Postby YFred » Sat Mar 21, 2009 12:05 am

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:Hillary is bringing Talat to Washington to offer him a deal, that if he signs on to a peace deal with Christofias without Turkey's influence, he can be protected under a "witness protection program" that will give him a complete new ID to live in Kansas.! :lol:


What differnece will it make if they meet? what have you GC go to fear?


I don't know there should be any fear from the GC's. As a TC, I don't have any fears. Talat is a Private Citizen and he can go anywhere he is invited. It will be good for Talat to see how Democracy in other multi ethnic countries work. Perhaps Hillary will drill my "BBF" plan into Talat's head.! :wink:

That I will welcome any day.! :lol:

So he is not being invited as the leader of TCs. How many Private Citizens have been invited Kikapu. Please stop this nonsense. It does not contribute to reconciliation, one bit.


You may be surprised to know, but many private citizens get an invite to Washington and the White House for many different reasons and not just heads of states. Talat can claim to be the head of state if Hillary addresses him as the President of The TRNC, and if not, then he is only there as a leader of the TC's and not on any official state visit, which makes him a Private Citizen. Even Palestinian leaders are greeted with official state visits and addressed as a President, even though it is not a recognised state. Lets see if Talat will get the same recognition as any of the present or former leaders of the Palestinian people going back 60 years. My money says, Talat will be treated as the leader of the TC's and nothing else.!

How can we find out how she greets him?


Last time I looked, they had TV cameras in the US, so if Hillary wants to greet Talat as the President of the TRNC, she can do it on camera, and then you will get to find out also, that's how we will know.!

You don't say, does it record both motion and sound? Those yanks they are very clever. :wink:
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:05 am

paliometoxo wrote:REPORTS yesterday indicated the Turkish government was pulling strings to get Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat an audience with US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Washington next week.

Shit happens when you’re a pseudo president… :(
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Re: Hillary invites Talat in Washington

Postby christos1 » Sat Mar 21, 2009 2:25 am

CBBB wrote:“Ethnos” newspaper claims that Talat’s invitation was asked as e personal favor by the Turkish Prime Minister Redjep Taip Erdogan during Hillary Clinton’s visit in Ankara. After that she had asked for the opinion of the US embassy in Nicosia, which answered positively about the idea and stressed that the invitation will help Talat also in an inner-political plan.


As far as i can tell, this statement above is accurate. If Nicosia gave the blessing, whats the problem? I dont agree with the move but if your going to complain about it...shouldnt it be with the current leadership in Nicosia? I don't get it. The government spokesman today was flat out asked if he objected to the meeting and he responded something like well i have nothing more to say about the matter than what was stated previously. What was stated previously? That they were examining and assessing the developments.
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