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APOEL’s love of the Nazi swastika

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Postby insan » Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:14 pm

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DT. wrote:there's 3 kids that happen to support apoel who go around spraying zwastika graffiti everywhere. 3 kids out of about 100,000 fans of apoel on this island. And this idiot blames the Chairman of APOEL Ltd. WHy doesn't he also request the chairman of Galatasaray to go to jail since his fans murdered a Leeds supporter?


It sounds as though you know who they are, so why don't you shop them?


Shop them for what? Freedom of speech, this is reaction to what is going on. Turkish invanders/third world Immigration, anyway the Keltic cross is more common than the swastika (a Greek symbol anyway).


Cut the crap. The aforementioned plonkers use it in regard of nazism. Do u think they are familiar with ancient history? They are hardly aware of the recent events (1955-today), and they are the same plonkers that shout about greek cyprus and then vote for Analstasiades and his EVET campaign. :roll:


I guess they r the ones who claim to be the "White" Greeks. They have a great sympathy towards nazi idealogy. Weird people.


You know very little about this island. Greeks come in all shades of color. It has been like that since ancient times when half the world were govern by Greeks. There has never been an incident that i have read where a Greek with light skin complexion discriminated against a Greek with darker skin. That just doesnt occur here.


U misunderstood me. It is a fact that there's a group of Greeks define themsleves as "white" Greeks. No offence meant. :wink:

In fact, the founders of early Greek or "Negreecian" civilizations were the Egyptians themselves, and it was Egyptian priests to reminded Herodotus that the Egyptians had been in the "Peleponeses" thousands of years before the Greeks arrived. Factually, the Dorian Greeks who were the first "white" Greeks arrived from Central Asia along with a number of other Caucasoid peoples who also entered into Northern Italy, France, Spain, Germany and parts of Western Europe. In fact, today's Afghans, Pashtoons and other Central Europeans and Altaic Russians are directly related to the various Western European nations of today.

As far as the Romans, Greeks and early Jews (Isrealites) were concerned, Blacks/Cushites/Ethiopians/Egyptians were a great people and as far as the Romans and Greeks were concerned (see Herodotus, "The Histories," ) the Ethiopians or Africans were the inventors of "pomp and ceremony, laws," and other aspects of civilization. On the other hand, the Romans and Greeks looked at other Europeans, particularly the Celtics as barbarians and it is also the Greeks who are credited for popularizing blonde-haired jokes, because they considered the blonde and red-haired Celtics and other Europeans to be "stupid" and inferior. Still, Roman and Greek contempt for the Celtics and Northern/Central Europeans was based on cultural chauvanism on the parts of the Romans and Greeks.


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Postby christos1 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:28 pm

insan wrote:
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insan wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
CBBB wrote:
DT. wrote:there's 3 kids that happen to support apoel who go around spraying zwastika graffiti everywhere. 3 kids out of about 100,000 fans of apoel on this island. And this idiot blames the Chairman of APOEL Ltd. WHy doesn't he also request the chairman of Galatasaray to go to jail since his fans murdered a Leeds supporter?


It sounds as though you know who they are, so why don't you shop them?


Shop them for what? Freedom of speech, this is reaction to what is going on. Turkish invanders/third world Immigration, anyway the Keltic cross is more common than the swastika (a Greek symbol anyway).


Cut the crap. The aforementioned plonkers use it in regard of nazism. Do u think they are familiar with ancient history? They are hardly aware of the recent events (1955-today), and they are the same plonkers that shout about greek cyprus and then vote for Analstasiades and his EVET campaign. :roll:


I guess they r the ones who claim to be the "White" Greeks. They have a great sympathy towards nazi idealogy. Weird people.


You know very little about this island. Greeks come in all shades of color. It has been like that since ancient times when half the world were govern by Greeks. There has never been an incident that i have read where a Greek with light skin complexion discriminated against a Greek with darker skin. That just doesnt occur here.


U misunderstood me. It is a fact that there's a group of Greeks define themsleves as "white" Greeks. No offence meant. :wink:

In fact, the founders of early Greek or "Negreecian" civilizations were the Egyptians themselves, and it was Egyptian priests to reminded Herodotus that the Egyptians had been in the "Peleponeses" thousands of years before the Greeks arrived. Factually, the Dorian Greeks who were the first "white" Greeks arrived from Central Asia along with a number of other Caucasoid peoples who also entered into Northern Italy, France, Spain, Germany and parts of Western Europe. In fact, today's Afghans, Pashtoons and other Central Europeans and Altaic Russians are directly related to the various Western European nations of today.

As far as the Romans, Greeks and early Jews (Isrealites) were concerned, Blacks/Cushites/Ethiopians/Egyptians were a great people and as far as the Romans and Greeks were concerned (see Herodotus, "The Histories," ) the Ethiopians or Africans were the inventors of "pomp and ceremony, laws," and other aspects of civilization. On the other hand, the Romans and Greeks looked at other Europeans, particularly the Celtics as barbarians and it is also the Greeks who are credited for popularizing blonde-haired jokes, because they considered the blonde and red-haired Celtics and other Europeans to be "stupid" and inferior. Still, Roman and Greek contempt for the Celtics and Northern/Central Europeans was based on cultural chauvanism on the parts of the Romans and Greeks.


http://www.raceandhistory.com/historica ... /race.html


This website you mention here is a bunch of marlarky. I clicked on the link and one of the first sentences i read at the top was "In order for one to understand the nature of Anglo-Saxon racism" what is this, an afro centric website? How do you class every one that is Anglo-Saxon as racist? No offense man but i am not going to be reading stuff like that as whats written on that site is pure fiction with a tinge of hatred to the white man. "Negreecian" lol at least you made me laugh. By the way, did you read what it said about Dorian GREEKS? You realize that the Dorians were in fact "Macedonians" yep. You look that up in any encyclopedia, including a slavic fyrom one. The FYRoM Slavs believe they were proto dorians lol that is why in forums that you visit, like topix macedonia, you see slavs calling themselves dorians. You realize that the stuff you post in one thread contradicts 100% the stuff you post in another thread. I mean, are you reading the stuff you post or do you simply get a hard on with words like "Negreecian". Are you going to now be posting about black Athina next? If you do, i would also like to remind you that even in the afro centric world, the blacks who like to claim Greek history recognize the "Negreecian" as Macedonian Greeks. But what ever you post, i am sure i will have a good laugh.

btw Do you see how every one likes to claim Greek history, ehh? Oh i can see how envious you are. Why dont people claim Ottoman history as theirs? Have you ever read Turkish articles saying that the crimes committed by the Ottomans can in no way be linked to the Turks of Turkey. I have read it at least a dozen times. Why is everyone running away from the Ottoman legacy? Things that make you go hmmmm
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Postby am » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:33 pm

True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.[/quote]

is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:36 pm

am wrote:True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.


am wrote:is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?


AM, think about what the answer should be, being in Cyprus, think about the exact opposite and you will have all the answers.
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Postby christos1 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 7:52 pm

am wrote:True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.
is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?


Perhaps the author needs a real lesson.
Hundreds of thousands of Greeks perished during world war II.

Is the APOEL organization or the people who frequent their games in love with NAZI flags? If this is all about three youths and the APOEL organization is greatly offended, why not bring a lawsuit? Who are you? In no way would this be a frivolous lawsuit.
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Postby christos1 » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:00 pm

YFred wrote:
am wrote:True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.


am wrote:is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?


AM, think about what the answer should be, being in Cyprus, think about the exact opposite and you will have all the answers.


Where exactly do you reside? Turkey? Do i really need to go there? I have been the States where a person sued a taxi company for not picking him up when he raised his hand and won the case. If the New York Times wrote a story about the Yankees being in love with the NAZI flag because some Nazi graffiti was found near the stadium ... the reaction would be great, i can not tell you how many lawsuits would be filed.
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Postby YFred » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:09 pm

christos1 wrote:
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am wrote:True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.


am wrote:is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?


AM, think about what the answer should be, being in Cyprus, think about the exact opposite and you will have all the answers.


Where exactly do you reside? Turkey? Do i really need to go there? I have been the States where a person sued a taxi company for not picking him up when he raised his hand and won the case. If the New York Times wrote a story about the Yankees being in love with the NAZI flag because some Nazi graffiti was found near the stadium ... the reaction would be great, i can not tell you how many lawsuits would be filed.

Thats becasue it is against the law in UK and USA for a taxi not to stop if a person raises their hand.
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Postby insan » Thu Mar 19, 2009 8:12 pm

christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
CBBB wrote:
DT. wrote:there's 3 kids that happen to support apoel who go around spraying zwastika graffiti everywhere. 3 kids out of about 100,000 fans of apoel on this island. And this idiot blames the Chairman of APOEL Ltd. WHy doesn't he also request the chairman of Galatasaray to go to jail since his fans murdered a Leeds supporter?


It sounds as though you know who they are, so why don't you shop them?


Shop them for what? Freedom of speech, this is reaction to what is going on. Turkish invanders/third world Immigration, anyway the Keltic cross is more common than the swastika (a Greek symbol anyway).


Cut the crap. The aforementioned plonkers use it in regard of nazism. Do u think they are familiar with ancient history? They are hardly aware of the recent events (1955-today), and they are the same plonkers that shout about greek cyprus and then vote for Analstasiades and his EVET campaign. :roll:


I guess they r the ones who claim to be the "White" Greeks. They have a great sympathy towards nazi idealogy. Weird people.


You know very little about this island. Greeks come in all shades of color. It has been like that since ancient times when half the world were govern by Greeks. There has never been an incident that i have read where a Greek with light skin complexion discriminated against a Greek with darker skin. That just doesnt occur here.


U misunderstood me. It is a fact that there's a group of Greeks define themsleves as "white" Greeks. No offence meant. :wink:

In fact, the founders of early Greek or "Negreecian" civilizations were the Egyptians themselves, and it was Egyptian priests to reminded Herodotus that the Egyptians had been in the "Peleponeses" thousands of years before the Greeks arrived. Factually, the Dorian Greeks who were the first "white" Greeks arrived from Central Asia along with a number of other Caucasoid peoples who also entered into Northern Italy, France, Spain, Germany and parts of Western Europe. In fact, today's Afghans, Pashtoons and other Central Europeans and Altaic Russians are directly related to the various Western European nations of today.

As far as the Romans, Greeks and early Jews (Isrealites) were concerned, Blacks/Cushites/Ethiopians/Egyptians were a great people and as far as the Romans and Greeks were concerned (see Herodotus, "The Histories," ) the Ethiopians or Africans were the inventors of "pomp and ceremony, laws," and other aspects of civilization. On the other hand, the Romans and Greeks looked at other Europeans, particularly the Celtics as barbarians and it is also the Greeks who are credited for popularizing blonde-haired jokes, because they considered the blonde and red-haired Celtics and other Europeans to be "stupid" and inferior. Still, Roman and Greek contempt for the Celtics and Northern/Central Europeans was based on cultural chauvanism on the parts of the Romans and Greeks.


http://www.raceandhistory.com/historica ... /race.html


This website you mention here is a bunch of marlarky. I clicked on the link and one of the first sentences i read at the top was "In order for one to understand the nature of Anglo-Saxon racism" what is this, an afro centric website? How do you class every one that is Anglo-Saxon as racist? No offense man but i am not going to be reading stuff like that as whats written on that site is pure fiction with a tinge of hatred to the white man. "Negreecian" lol at least you made me laugh. By the way, did you read what it said about Dorian GREEKS? You realize that the Dorians were in fact "Macedonians" yep. You look that up in any encyclopedia, including a slavic fyrom one. The FYRoM Slavs believe they were proto dorians lol that is why in forums that you visit, like topix macedonia, you see slavs calling themselves dorians. You realize that the stuff you post in one thread contradicts 100% the stuff you post in another thread. I mean, are you reading the stuff you post or do you simply get a hard on with words like "Negreecian". Are you going to now be posting about black Athina next? If you do, i would also like to remind you that even in the afro centric world, the blacks who like to claim Greek history recognize the "Negreecian" as Macedonian Greeks. But what ever you post, i am sure i will have a good laugh.

btw Do you see how every one likes to claim Greek history, ehh? Oh i can see how envious you are. Why dont people claim Ottoman history as theirs? Have you ever read Turkish articles saying that the crimes committed by the Ottomans can in no way be linked to the Turks of Turkey. I have read it at least a dozen times. Why is everyone running away from the Ottoman legacy? Things that make you go hmmmm


christos1, u sound like just another "ultimate knowledge center" supposedly knows all. :lol: Slow down a bit, mate. :wink: What do u infer from "white" Greek? "White" nationalism is an universal movement and among them there r Greeks that claim they r "White" Greeks. No?

:lol: U think I'm envious abt Greek history? :lol: Haven't u yet heard that I'm the son of Eve and Adam? :D

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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 19, 2009 10:42 pm

am wrote:True, my thanks to YFred for bringing this to our attention and making sure the author gets what he deserves.


is it not true that swastikas and the name of apoel have been sprayed on walls around nicosia?
then is it not true that the author of this article reported something true?
what, in your mind, then, is actionable (legally speaking) about someone reporting a fact?
and what does someone who speaks the truth, again, in your mind, deserve?


claims regarding the illeteracy of the Board of Directors and Chairman of APoel. Claims that insinuate that the Chairman of APoel is a Nazi. Claims that the Company APOEL Football Ltd is encouraging nazism can be detrimental to its business and client base. This isn't a football club we're talking about here matey this is a Ltd company with a business, an income, a client base and a reputation.
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Postby christos1 » Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:22 am

Ok, now its deleted.

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