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Tcs and the settlers puzzle

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Postby GeorgeV97qaue » Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:37 pm

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GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
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Kuruovali wrote:... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.


If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!


I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

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Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?



YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!


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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 03, 2009 6:47 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.


If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!


I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K


Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?



YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!


Can you believe this...Kikapu knows better than the UN USA EU.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Jul 03, 2009 8:42 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.


If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!


I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K


Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?



YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!


Can you believe this...Kikapu knows better than the UN USA EU.




If you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles, which all of these lacked in the Annan Plan.!!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jul 03, 2009 9:06 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
GeorgeV97qaue wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Kuruovali wrote:... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.


If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!


I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K


Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?



YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!


Can you believe this...Kikapu knows better than the UN USA EU.




If you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles, which all of these lacked in the Annan Plan.!!


So now you are saying they support an undemocratic plan? please make up your mind as you are sounding very confused...any new plan will be evaluated according to its merits and voted on accordingly like GCs the TCs also have the right to say NO and take the consequencies be they positive ot negative.
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