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[Oracle]

I don't know why Deniz put my name .

OK, no worries.

Halil first posted that website in this thread below, and Piratis pointed out some other inconsistencies:

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=401319

[Kuruovali]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

[GeorgeV97qaue]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

[YFred]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

[Oracle]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'.

... since there are people like you who band that around as "normal".

The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found.

Why? Are they expert negotiators?

From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended.

It was a bad plan, and we were wise to resist Turkish threats ...

Hope the new team have better luck next time round.
K

A fair plan should do the trick. Preferably, one which instigates immediate and complete withdrawal of all Turks and their troops.

[Oracle]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

Irrelevant (like yourself).

It's what the majority of the Cypriots decide which counts.

[DT.]

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

When it comes to these countries, you'll even quote the blessings. Heaven forbid these countries including the USA, Britain, France, Russia, China etc on behalf of the UN come up with resolution after resolution calling for Turkish millitary withdrawal and claiming the "trnc" as illegal.

Why listen to resolutions when you can count blessings

[denizaksulu]

Like this one,

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler1.html

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/sehitler4.html

Halil, you have misunderstood. I was surprised that the important year of 1974 was missing from your website because I knew it existed on other commemorative websites, like the one posted above.

what do u mean my website . I have no website .

CBBB, just for you. This is the list of all those known to have died at the hands of the Greek Cypriots. Apologies for putting this list forward as it was produced by Halil. But then he wont mind.

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/sehitler.htm

I don't know why Deniz put my name . It looks he is trying to explain CBBB that those list are shown by above web page . Some times in the forum we have to supply evidances and we are given links .

they are a civilian organization all the members and directors are families of people who are lost their lifes in Cyprus problem .

they don't hide their identidities .here is the link for the directors also they have a contact adress u can ask them anything u want .
http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/kurul.html

http://www.kktc-sehitaileleri.org/iletisim.html








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Halil, I only mentioned it as a link from you. Sorry for any misunderstanding.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

All of the above have already tried to destroy Cyprus when they allowed Turkey to invade in 1974. So why should us the GC's give a monkeys if they gave their blessing or not. The plan was not fair Turkey gained everything and we lost most of our land. We are not stupid, remember we hold the cards now not Turkey or the TC's. We will agree to a plan that suits us not the rest of the world.

[Kikapu]

... I suggest you broaden your horizons a bit and maybe actually go to Cyprus cross over to the north and speak to some Turkish Cypriots. It might do you some good in the long run.

If you are concerned about our welfare, perhaps you should not be endorsing a "cross over" within one country.

Surely in this day and age, to advocate crossing over in order to mix with a segregated group of people, as though it would do one good, is indicative of your brainwashed mentality that itself needs a restorative.

The only solution is removal of the troops and other Turks and no more "cross over" mentality, within one country!

I'm afriad with current realities on the ground their is no other alternative then to 'cross over'. The Turkish troops will go when an eventual settlement is found. From my last recolection the GC's voted against the last plan which was negotiated quite extensively by Papadopoulos and we all know how that plan ended. Hope the new team have better luck next time round.

K

Hi Kuruovali I just like to comment on your post. Firstly the annan plan was not a negotiated settlement but a plan forced onto the Greek Cypriots. Where the two parties couldnt agree Annan filled the blanks. The solution favoured Turkey and Turkish Cypriots. We actually didnt benefit from the plan. Turkey invades us then expects us to compensate our selves.

We the Gc's now have a leader who knows how to play the game where Paps was to hardline. This time we have real chance of settlement because it's in Turkeys interest to come to the table with the right attitude. If they want to be in the EU then they need to toe the line otherwise no EU for them and no EU for the TC's or should I say the Turkish Settlers.

Did I imagine it or did UN, USA, EU, Turkey, Britain and Greece all give their blessing to the Anan plan?

YES, you imagined it. Just because certain individuals from those institutions supported it for their own selfish and corrupted reasons, did not mean it was supported by those countries or institutions main body. But if you say they have supported it, then I suppose you will have no problem when they support it again, but this time under True Federation, True Democracy, Human Rights and International Laws, which all these principles lacked in the Annan Plan. Only Morally Corrupted individuals would have supported the AP, and we all know who they are, including all those here on the forum.!