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Tcs and the settlers puzzle

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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:26 pm

CBBB wrote:How many TCs had been killed/threatened when Turkey invaded?


None. In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the assistance of TCs invaded Cyprus and started killing Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

So the start a war, they kill 1000s, and then they pretend to be the victims because in the war they started they also had a few casualties? (far less than the casulties they caused to us).

The same is true for the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in 1958, they killed 100s of GCs, and then they present themselves as the victims because in the conflict they started they had casualties as well.
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Re: Tcs and the settlers puzzle

Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:31 pm

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runaway wrote:So funny how you show things that suit you and ignore the ones that don't. No doubt, it was a rescue operation for Turkish Cypriots at the time. Rightly said. Rescue of TCs from GC agression... Everything started because GCs were not and still are not mature enough to accept TC presence on the island.
No doubt, it was a rescue operation for Turkish Cypriots at the time.


I highlighted realities that do not allow any doubt. There was no rescue operation on behalf of TR, only a plan which waited a long time until it was executed.

Reading the whole paragraph, it says:
"...it became very apparent that the operation was not so innocent. It had a wider coverage as a tailor-made occupation project"

You deliberately chose what to comment.
You don't even bother to comment the least regarding the illegalities of Tr which are mentioned in the article; an article writen by a Tc who became a victim of Tr's illegalities in his own country.
Hypocrisy at its best my dear Run! :?


There's another TC, even vast majority of TCs tell the complete opposite of what Serdar Atai says. Do we have to believe Serdar Atai? No, of course. And we won't label Serdar Atai as a paid traitor like most of the GCs do to some GCs when they say something supposedly detrimental for ur national cause. :lol:


I can accept what you are saying...but I have trouble understanding
1...why so many tcs work in the free areas every day
2...why so many tcs shop in the free areas
3...why so many tcs have RoC passports
4...why so many tcs visit hospitals in the free areas.
5...why titty man got all his computers from the free areas for his business

maybe you can help me understand better if you were to explain it to me titty man...
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:32 pm

oh and final point that I seemed to not understand...is why turkish teams don't come over and play football with you guys, but come to the RoC instead...I thought they are your long lost cousins...
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Postby CBBB » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:37 pm

Piratis wrote:
CBBB wrote:How many TCs had been killed/threatened when Turkey invaded?


None. In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the assistance of TCs invaded Cyprus and started killing Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

So the start a war, they kill 1000s, and then they pretend to be the victims because in the war they started they also had a few casualties? (far less than the casulties they caused to us).

The same is true for the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in 1958, they killed 100s of GCs, and then they present themselves as the victims because in the conflict they started they had casualties as well.


Your first two paragraphs are what I was waiting for a TC to tell me, but they wouldn't.

However I don't think you can honestly absolve GCs of all responibility in the inter-communal troubles.
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Postby Piratis » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:46 pm

CBBB wrote:
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CBBB wrote:How many TCs had been killed/threatened when Turkey invaded?


None. In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the assistance of TCs invaded Cyprus and started killing Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

So the start a war, they kill 1000s, and then they pretend to be the victims because in the war they started they also had a few casualties? (far less than the casulties they caused to us).

The same is true for the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in 1958, they killed 100s of GCs, and then they present themselves as the victims because in the conflict they started they had casualties as well.


Your first two paragraphs are what I was waiting for a TC to tell me, but they wouldn't.

However I don't think you can honestly absolve GCs of all responibility in the inter-communal troubles.


CBBB, I don't even absolve GCs of the responsibility for those 200 or so TCs that died during the Turkish invasion.

I am simply pointing out the fact that both the inter-communal conflict and the war of 1974, which caused so much suffering and so many casualties to both sides (but far more on the GC side), were started by the Turks.

If you start a war or conflict it is inevitable that people will get killed and suffer. These wars and conflicts shouldn't even happen. The Turks should have simply accepted that Cypriots (TCs included) will be free to democratically and peacefully decide the destiny of their own island. Unfortunately the Turks choose wars and conflicts instead in order to force their own will.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:54 pm

CBBB wrote:
Piratis wrote:
CBBB wrote:How many TCs had been killed/threatened when Turkey invaded?


None. In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the assistance of TCs invaded Cyprus and started killing Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

So the start a war, they kill 1000s, and then they pretend to be the victims because in the war they started they also had a few casualties? (far less than the casulties they caused to us).

The same is true for the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in 1958, they killed 100s of GCs, and then they present themselves as the victims because in the conflict they started they had casualties as well.


Your first two paragraphs are what I was waiting for a TC to tell me, but they wouldn't.

However I don't think you can honestly absolve GCs of all responibility in the inter-communal troubles.



CBBB, just for you. This is the list of all those known to have died at the hands of the Greek Cypriots. Apologies for putting this list forward as it was produced by Halil. But then he wont mind.

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/sehitler.htm
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:13 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Piratis wrote:
CBBB wrote:How many TCs had been killed/threatened when Turkey invaded?


None. In 1974 no TC was killed until after 20th of July when Turkey with the assistance of TCs invaded Cyprus and started killing Greek Cypriots by the 1000s.

So the start a war, they kill 1000s, and then they pretend to be the victims because in the war they started they also had a few casualties? (far less than the casulties they caused to us).

The same is true for the inter-communal conflict. The TCs started it in 1958, they killed 100s of GCs, and then they present themselves as the victims because in the conflict they started they had casualties as well.


Your first two paragraphs are what I was waiting for a TC to tell me, but they wouldn't.

However I don't think you can honestly absolve GCs of all responibility in the inter-communal troubles.



CBBB, just for you. This is the list of all those known to have died at the hands of the Greek Cypriots. Apologies for putting this list forward as it was produced by Halil. But then he wont mind.

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/sehitler.htm


Is this the same list that had some "martyrs" who were killed by Brits during some demonstrations?
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:30 pm

Hhhmm ... Methinks a multifunctional list, a pot pouri of dead TCs to suit every thread and purpose!

denizaksulu wrote: ...This is the list of all those known to have died at the hands of the Greek Cypriots. Apologies for putting this list forward as it was produced by Halil. But then he wont mind.

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/sehitler.htm


Deniz you are mistaken! ... Apparently (when it suited halil), that list was used for extracting some "martyrs" :roll:

The great resistance put up by the Turkish Cypriot people against the British Colonial Rule in Cyprus fifty one years ago and the martyrs who fell during this resistance will be remembered tomorrow with two separate ceremonies in Nicosia.


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=401319

So how many on that list really did die at the hands of GCs, Deniz? ... huh!
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Re: Tcs and the settlers puzzle

Postby runaway » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:31 pm

boomerang wrote:
insan wrote:
RAFAELLA wrote:
runaway wrote:So funny how you show things that suit you and ignore the ones that don't. No doubt, it was a rescue operation for Turkish Cypriots at the time. Rightly said. Rescue of TCs from GC agression... Everything started because GCs were not and still are not mature enough to accept TC presence on the island.
No doubt, it was a rescue operation for Turkish Cypriots at the time.


I highlighted realities that do not allow any doubt. There was no rescue operation on behalf of TR, only a plan which waited a long time until it was executed.

Reading the whole paragraph, it says:
"...it became very apparent that the operation was not so innocent. It had a wider coverage as a tailor-made occupation project"

You deliberately chose what to comment.
You don't even bother to comment the least regarding the illegalities of Tr which are mentioned in the article; an article writen by a Tc who became a victim of Tr's illegalities in his own country.
Hypocrisy at its best my dear Run! :?


There's another TC, even vast majority of TCs tell the complete opposite of what Serdar Atai says. Do we have to believe Serdar Atai? No, of course. And we won't label Serdar Atai as a paid traitor like most of the GCs do to some GCs when they say something supposedly detrimental for ur national cause. :lol:


I can accept what you are saying...but I have trouble understanding
1...why so many tcs work in the free areas every day
2...why so many tcs shop in the free areas
3...why so many tcs have RoC passports
4...why so many tcs visit hospitals in the free areas.
5...why titty man got all his computers from the free areas for his business

maybe you can help me understand better if you were to explain it to me titty man...


Trouble yourself more with the following:
1....why so many gcs shop in TRNC
2....why so many gcs gamble in TRNC
3....why gcs visit Turkey as tourists
4....why hasn't the world forced Turkey to leave TCs alone in your bloody hands in 35 years?
5....why do you keep on running after the impossible dream of a Greek-only Cyprus?
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:40 pm

Oracle wrote:Hhhmm ... Methinks a multifunctional list, a pot pouri of dead TCs to suit every thread and purpose!

denizaksulu wrote: ...This is the list of all those known to have died at the hands of the Greek Cypriots. Apologies for putting this list forward as it was produced by Halil. But then he wont mind.

http://www.kibrisliturksehitler.com/sehitler.htm


Deniz you are mistaken! ... Apparently (when it suited halil), that list was used for extracting some "martyrs" :roll:

The great resistance put up by the Turkish Cypriot people against the British Colonial Rule in Cyprus fifty one years ago and the martyrs who fell during this resistance will be remembered tomorrow with two separate ceremonies in Nicosia.


http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?p=401319

So how many on that list really did die at the hands of GCs, Deniz? ... huh!



These are known to have died. What it does not include are the missing.

There are a few dubious cases. Since I did not count them all,I cannot tell. Do you have a better list?

Poignant to me are those of my schoolmates killed in Kophinou.

Some died in circumstances which did not involve GCs. This is a list provided and the only one I have seen.

It seems there are one or two which did not die at the hands of GCs. My mistake.
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