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Postby insan » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:38 am

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insan wrote: :lol: :lol: :wink:

Dear, I've read that the consumption of ginger more than 40-50 gram, everyday; might cause poisonings, skin irritations and inflammations. :roll: Excessive amount of herbal teas also cause the same unhealthy cases. A while ago I consumed excessive amount of ginseng both as a tablet and ginsenf tea and it caused a bad inlammation somewhere on my cheek. It lasted 15 days to fade away. :shock:


Well I thought you'd guess I was joking about the ginger ... but why do you have to eat so much of it? It has anti-inflammatory properties and so it's not a completely inactive plant ingredient. As for Ginseng; it is well known for causing problems, even in small amounts ... aggressiveness I seem to recall (probably mimics testosterone).

So don't overdo it with any of these things, just because they are natural.

Maybe we can deal with this in another thread (we have trashed this important one :( ) ... and I must stop posting right now!

kalinihta


Ok, dear. :) Kalinihta. :D

I guess I will keep going off-topic with thread owner christos-1. :lol:
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:42 am

Oracle wrote:Well ... I saved the life of a Turk :? :(

Bad Oracle! :evil:


nothing wrong with that. Have you saved the soul as well?
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:43 am

Oracle wrote:Well ... I saved the life of a Turk :? :(

Bad Oracle! :evil:


Big thx dear. :lol:
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Re: Dehellenising Cyprus, Clinton on Turk minority

Postby christos1 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:48 am

yialousa1971 wrote:
miltiades wrote:
christos1 wrote:I want to expand a little on a couple of issues raised by Apostolos and Hermes in comments they left in these two Hellenic Antidote posts.

First, Hermes draws attention to this article (in Greek) on encouragement being given by the UK Labour MP Andrew Dismore to the creation of a bogus Cypriot national identity that would deliberately seek to marginalise if not eliminate Cyprus' and Cypriots' Greekness. Dismore is vice-chairman of the so-called Friends of Cyprus group, which consists mostly of UK parliamentarians but also counts journalists and academics as its members, and whose positions on the Turkish occupation are generally regarded as sympathetic to the Greek side.

In relation to Dismore and his support for a Cypriot national identity, it’s worth making the following points:

1. The Friends of Cyprus flatters to deceive, i.e. it pretends it is a caucus representing Greek Cypriot interests to the UK government, but its real role is the opposite: to convince Greek Cypriots of UK positions.

The nature of those involved with the Friends of Cyprus is revealed if we consider the career of Stephen Twigg, formerly Labour MP for Enfield, a marginal constituency in North London with a large Greek Cypriot population. As an MP, Twigg was an outspoken supporter
 of Cyprus; but when he lost his seat in 2005 he became director of the Foreign Policy Centre, a Blairite think tank, whose most high-profile intervention so far has been its ‘Turkey belongs in Europe’ campaign, which strongly advocates Turkey’s membership of the EU. Indeed, when the FPC launched its Turkey in Europe pamphlet last year, Twigg did the rounds of TV news studios and so on strongly promoting Turkey and its EU bid. From supporter of Cyprus to cheerleader for Turkey. So much for the Friends of Cyprus.

2. Since landing on Cyprus in 1878, the British strategy has been to dehellenise the island in order to control it better. The English wanted to create another Malta and a population that looked towards London, not Athens.

read the rest here:
http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/

Can you tell me if you have either a Cypriot ID or a Cypriot passport ??
The entire world recognises the island of Cyprus and its legal entity as that of a Cypriot nation. What the hell is it with you people who are in denial of our Cypriot ancestry and our Cypriot nationality.
I'm not , repeat not a bloody KALAMARAS , I'm a Cypriot above all else , you want to deny me my birthright by denigrating my devine right to be a national of my country of birth. I have nothing , I repeat nothing to be ashamed of being a Cypriot , you obviously are and Im certain that when asked of your nationality you stick your chest out and reply , Greek , well I dont mate I reply a Cypriot if pressed further to reveal if a G/C or a T/C then I repond by saying a G/C by default.
I love Greek music , I performed it professionaly , I love Greek food , I adore the reachness of the Greek language , the Greek glory of thousands of years ago , the contribution that Greece made to the world and the fact that our Western world civilization , democracy and culture IS a byproduct of the Greek civilization , but we are Greek Cypriots and the island of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots , all of them .

You posted in another thread that I'm "gullible" , let me assure that I'm no ones fool , I have never been a sucker and neither do I or anyone else considers me to an unsophisticated naive 63 year old.
What you failed to mention is that I'm a pragmatist and undeviatingly consistent with my support of the independence and territorial integrity of my nation which concurs in totality with the position of all International institutions.
ps. Your out of order with your comments concerning Bananiot , a man that I have met on 3 occasions and found him a solid respectable professional man who has my total respect.


but we are Greek Cypriots
That's what Mr akritas is saying, just like you said. We are not a separate entity, we are part of the Hellenic World as just like any other Hellen. As to that stupid word you keep using (KALAMARAS), I've never heard it myself, what does it mean?


Kalamaras is negative interpretation of a mainland Greek. Its not because mainland Greeks eat calamari and its not because the current PM is named Karamanlis. The origin of the word goes way back during the time when mainland Greeks were uprising against the Turks. Welcome to the world that i live in.
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Re: Dehellenising Cyprus, Clinton on Turk minority

Postby DT. » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:51 am

christos1 wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
miltiades wrote:
christos1 wrote:I want to expand a little on a couple of issues raised by Apostolos and Hermes in comments they left in these two Hellenic Antidote posts.

First, Hermes draws attention to this article (in Greek) on encouragement being given by the UK Labour MP Andrew Dismore to the creation of a bogus Cypriot national identity that would deliberately seek to marginalise if not eliminate Cyprus' and Cypriots' Greekness. Dismore is vice-chairman of the so-called Friends of Cyprus group, which consists mostly of UK parliamentarians but also counts journalists and academics as its members, and whose positions on the Turkish occupation are generally regarded as sympathetic to the Greek side.

In relation to Dismore and his support for a Cypriot national identity, it’s worth making the following points:

1. The Friends of Cyprus flatters to deceive, i.e. it pretends it is a caucus representing Greek Cypriot interests to the UK government, but its real role is the opposite: to convince Greek Cypriots of UK positions.

The nature of those involved with the Friends of Cyprus is revealed if we consider the career of Stephen Twigg, formerly Labour MP for Enfield, a marginal constituency in North London with a large Greek Cypriot population. As an MP, Twigg was an outspoken supporter
 of Cyprus; but when he lost his seat in 2005 he became director of the Foreign Policy Centre, a Blairite think tank, whose most high-profile intervention so far has been its ‘Turkey belongs in Europe’ campaign, which strongly advocates Turkey’s membership of the EU. Indeed, when the FPC launched its Turkey in Europe pamphlet last year, Twigg did the rounds of TV news studios and so on strongly promoting Turkey and its EU bid. From supporter of Cyprus to cheerleader for Turkey. So much for the Friends of Cyprus.

2. Since landing on Cyprus in 1878, the British strategy has been to dehellenise the island in order to control it better. The English wanted to create another Malta and a population that looked towards London, not Athens.

read the rest here:
http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/

Can you tell me if you have either a Cypriot ID or a Cypriot passport ??
The entire world recognises the island of Cyprus and its legal entity as that of a Cypriot nation. What the hell is it with you people who are in denial of our Cypriot ancestry and our Cypriot nationality.
I'm not , repeat not a bloody KALAMARAS , I'm a Cypriot above all else , you want to deny me my birthright by denigrating my devine right to be a national of my country of birth. I have nothing , I repeat nothing to be ashamed of being a Cypriot , you obviously are and Im certain that when asked of your nationality you stick your chest out and reply , Greek , well I dont mate I reply a Cypriot if pressed further to reveal if a G/C or a T/C then I repond by saying a G/C by default.
I love Greek music , I performed it professionaly , I love Greek food , I adore the reachness of the Greek language , the Greek glory of thousands of years ago , the contribution that Greece made to the world and the fact that our Western world civilization , democracy and culture IS a byproduct of the Greek civilization , but we are Greek Cypriots and the island of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots , all of them .

You posted in another thread that I'm "gullible" , let me assure that I'm no ones fool , I have never been a sucker and neither do I or anyone else considers me to an unsophisticated naive 63 year old.
What you failed to mention is that I'm a pragmatist and undeviatingly consistent with my support of the independence and territorial integrity of my nation which concurs in totality with the position of all International institutions.
ps. Your out of order with your comments concerning Bananiot , a man that I have met on 3 occasions and found him a solid respectable professional man who has my total respect.


but we are Greek Cypriots
That's what Mr akritas is saying, just like you said. We are not a separate entity, we are part of the Hellenic World as just like any other Hellen. As to that stupid word you keep using (KALAMARAS), I've never heard it myself, what does it mean?


Kalamaras is negative interpretation of a mainland Greek. Its not because mainland Greeks eat calamari and its not because the current PM is named Karamanlis. The origin of the word goes way back during the time when mainland Greeks were uprising against the Turks. Welcome to the world that i live in.


I thought it had more to do with the fact that the Greeks who were usually able to read and write were called Kalamarades by the illiterate Cypriots due to the squid ink or pens they used to write with.

Before GR jumps down my throat this was way after Chirokitia.
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Re: Dehellenising Cyprus, Clinton on Turk minority

Postby christos1 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:57 am

DT. wrote:
christos1 wrote:
yialousa1971 wrote:
miltiades wrote:
christos1 wrote:I want to expand a little on a couple of issues raised by Apostolos and Hermes in comments they left in these two Hellenic Antidote posts.

First, Hermes draws attention to this article (in Greek) on encouragement being given by the UK Labour MP Andrew Dismore to the creation of a bogus Cypriot national identity that would deliberately seek to marginalise if not eliminate Cyprus' and Cypriots' Greekness. Dismore is vice-chairman of the so-called Friends of Cyprus group, which consists mostly of UK parliamentarians but also counts journalists and academics as its members, and whose positions on the Turkish occupation are generally regarded as sympathetic to the Greek side.

In relation to Dismore and his support for a Cypriot national identity, it’s worth making the following points:

1. The Friends of Cyprus flatters to deceive, i.e. it pretends it is a caucus representing Greek Cypriot interests to the UK government, but its real role is the opposite: to convince Greek Cypriots of UK positions.

The nature of those involved with the Friends of Cyprus is revealed if we consider the career of Stephen Twigg, formerly Labour MP for Enfield, a marginal constituency in North London with a large Greek Cypriot population. As an MP, Twigg was an outspoken supporter
 of Cyprus; but when he lost his seat in 2005 he became director of the Foreign Policy Centre, a Blairite think tank, whose most high-profile intervention so far has been its ‘Turkey belongs in Europe’ campaign, which strongly advocates Turkey’s membership of the EU. Indeed, when the FPC launched its Turkey in Europe pamphlet last year, Twigg did the rounds of TV news studios and so on strongly promoting Turkey and its EU bid. From supporter of Cyprus to cheerleader for Turkey. So much for the Friends of Cyprus.

2. Since landing on Cyprus in 1878, the British strategy has been to dehellenise the island in order to control it better. The English wanted to create another Malta and a population that looked towards London, not Athens.

read the rest here:
http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/

Can you tell me if you have either a Cypriot ID or a Cypriot passport ??
The entire world recognises the island of Cyprus and its legal entity as that of a Cypriot nation. What the hell is it with you people who are in denial of our Cypriot ancestry and our Cypriot nationality.
I'm not , repeat not a bloody KALAMARAS , I'm a Cypriot above all else , you want to deny me my birthright by denigrating my devine right to be a national of my country of birth. I have nothing , I repeat nothing to be ashamed of being a Cypriot , you obviously are and Im certain that when asked of your nationality you stick your chest out and reply , Greek , well I dont mate I reply a Cypriot if pressed further to reveal if a G/C or a T/C then I repond by saying a G/C by default.
I love Greek music , I performed it professionaly , I love Greek food , I adore the reachness of the Greek language , the Greek glory of thousands of years ago , the contribution that Greece made to the world and the fact that our Western world civilization , democracy and culture IS a byproduct of the Greek civilization , but we are Greek Cypriots and the island of Cyprus belongs to the Cypriots , all of them .

You posted in another thread that I'm "gullible" , let me assure that I'm no ones fool , I have never been a sucker and neither do I or anyone else considers me to an unsophisticated naive 63 year old.
What you failed to mention is that I'm a pragmatist and undeviatingly consistent with my support of the independence and territorial integrity of my nation which concurs in totality with the position of all International institutions.
ps. Your out of order with your comments concerning Bananiot , a man that I have met on 3 occasions and found him a solid respectable professional man who has my total respect.


but we are Greek Cypriots
That's what Mr akritas is saying, just like you said. We are not a separate entity, we are part of the Hellenic World as just like any other Hellen. As to that stupid word you keep using (KALAMARAS), I've never heard it myself, what does it mean?


Kalamaras is negative interpretation of a mainland Greek. Its not because mainland Greeks eat calamari and its not because the current PM is named Karamanlis. The origin of the word goes way back during the time when mainland Greeks were uprising against the Turks. Welcome to the world that i live in.


I thought it had more to do with the fact that the Greeks who were usually able to read and write were called Kalamarades by the illiterate Cypriots due to the squid ink or pens they used to write with.

Before GR jumps down my throat this was way after Chirokitia.


You are absolutely right, DT. Thats it exactly.
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Postby christos1 » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:05 am

insan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:U could be unable to slow down again. :lol: Double post make is it more effective? :lol:




Refresh your browser. :wink:

Insan, i cant talk right now as i am learning some new moves on dancing. I am going to be ready for this British stoner chic this weekend. If you need some lessons, this guy is pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0746Edaolz8

Furk, i even look like the guy in the vid.


That style is too domestic for me. Brits r progressive and innovative people. They like innovative styles e.g "House Dancing" which I'm an expert of it since late 80s. :D Do u look like the sitting guy or dancing? U need to be very careful while "washing the laundry" becaue it is highly probable to shake and stick ur head between her b**bs and make her scream. :lol:

Anyway I wish u good luck. :wink:

Here's the "house dance":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIq1wYCxzH0


I look like the guy in the vid whos learning the movess and i got em down pact, Insan.

So she is going to be dancing with her friends with those glow sticks again. Follow me now. I figure i start off with "walk like a king" when i approach the dance floor. ehh? Start with "the serve..." and then "pick apples" followed by "gather mushrooms" Apples...mushrooms. When the base kicka in and everyone is going crazy, i figure ill do the "Arabic aunt". Maybe try and whisper in her ear...tell her something like: give it to me, yeah!

:lol:
It really sounds interesting besides a bit funny when u fill the gaps with what would u do during each movement. :lol:

So, do u have %100 chance of getting what u wish if u succesfully complete all the dance moves


I think i do :D

I will definitely let you know next week. Good night everyone.
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Postby insan » Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:11 am

christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
insan wrote:U could be unable to slow down again. :lol: Double post make is it more effective? :lol:




Refresh your browser. :wink:

Insan, i cant talk right now as i am learning some new moves on dancing. I am going to be ready for this British stoner chic this weekend. If you need some lessons, this guy is pretty good:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0746Edaolz8

Furk, i even look like the guy in the vid.


That style is too domestic for me. Brits r progressive and innovative people. They like innovative styles e.g "House Dancing" which I'm an expert of it since late 80s. :D Do u look like the sitting guy or dancing? U need to be very careful while "washing the laundry" becaue it is highly probable to shake and stick ur head between her b**bs and make her scream. :lol:

Anyway I wish u good luck. :wink:

Here's the "house dance":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bIq1wYCxzH0


I look like the guy in the vid whos learning the movess and i got em down pact, Insan.

So she is going to be dancing with her friends with those glow sticks again. Follow me now. I figure i start off with "walk like a king" when i approach the dance floor. ehh? Start with "the serve..." and then "pick apples" followed by "gather mushrooms" Apples...mushrooms. When the base kicka in and everyone is going crazy, i figure ill do the "Arabic aunt". Maybe try and whisper in her ear...tell her something like: give it to me, yeah!

:lol:
It really sounds interesting besides a bit funny when u fill the gaps with what would u do during each movement. :lol:

So, do u have %100 chance of getting what u wish if u succesfully complete all the dance moves


I think i do :D

I will definitely let you know next week. Good night everyone.


Good luck and good night bro. :D
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Mar 17, 2009 8:40 am

Thicko! We want Turkey to want to join the EU. Once it loses the desire to get into Eurpoe the ROC will lose its leverage.

If Britain wanted to dehellenise Cyprus why was the island once offered to Greece.


Thanks jerry. But, beware, he did not write it, he just agrees with it and all the absurities in it.
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue Mar 17, 2009 9:27 am

Oracle wrote:Well ... I saved the life of a Turk :? :(

Bad Oracle! :evil:



I am beginning to like you. :lol: :lol:


I must be mad. :roll:
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