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[YFred]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

[denizaksulu]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

Please, do not credit me with such things. Its just an observation.

Why was Phil the Greek called Phillip of Macedonia?

I have done no research on the subject and greatful for all I have learnt from our friends here.

Names do not just appear out of nowhere, do they. One of my fav names is Melis. How sweet. All TCs know it is Greek. Who cares?

[Hatter]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

Deniz, I wouldn't set too much store by YFred's comment on this one. YF's comment is just as arbitrary as your response. Simon presented you with a strong, rational evidence and a reasoned response, and all you could say is "it reminds me of such and such", conveniently ignoring Simon's irrefutable post, and then pathetically attempting to divert attention by trotting out this "neighbour" of yours. Does your response come out of some manual, perhaps the chapter on what to do when any reasoned response is impossible?

YF, at least Simon bothered to present the facts, unlike your pathetic attempt to dismiss his effort. Good try, YF, but no cigar!

Good post, Simon!

[YFred]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

Deniz, I wouldn't set too much store by YFred's comment on this one. YF's comment is just as arbitrary as your response. Simon presented you with a strong, rational evidence and a reasoned response, and all you could say is "it reminds me of such and such", conveniently ignoring Simon's irrefutable post, and then pathetically attempting to divert attention by trotting out this "neighbour" of yours. Does your response come out of some manual, perhaps the chapter on what to do when any reasoned response is impossible?

YF, at least Simon bothered to present the facts, unlike your pathetic attempt to dismiss his effort. Good try, YF, but no cigar!

Good post, Simon!

I gave up smoking 25 years ago. TFFT.
Can you explain for us simpletons why it is that an educated Macedonian does not understand Greek if Simon is correct. Is there a race in Macedonia that knows no greek? Please enlighten us.

[paliometoxo]

my uncle gave up smoking 8 years and as soon as he set foot in the republic of invaded north he started again

[denizaksulu]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

Deniz, I wouldn't set too much store by YFred's comment on this one. YF's comment is just as arbitrary as your response. Simon presented you with a strong, rational evidence and a reasoned response, and all you could say is "it reminds me of such and such", conveniently ignoring Simon's irrefutable post, and then pathetically attempting to divert attention by trotting out this "neighbour" of yours. Does your response come out of some manual, perhaps the chapter on what to do when any reasoned response is impossible?

YF, at least Simon bothered to present the facts, unlike your pathetic attempt to dismiss his effort. Good try, YF, but no cigar!

Good post, Simon!

No need to get defensive 'Mad' Hatter. I stated above that I had not researched the subject. Its an observation. I did not rubbish anyones claim so get off yor high horse. I am more broad minded than you perceive me.

But since you are now involved as well, why ot accept that there is a possibility that Alex may have been adopted by the Greek world and subsequent writers may have glorified Alex's imaginary Greekness. Its all possible.

Have a good day.

NB. Please note how much of Simons 'evidence' includes Greek Mythology'.

[DT.]

I gave up smoking 25 years ago. TFFT.
Can you explain for us simpletons why it is that an educated Macedonian does not understand Greek if Simon is correct. Is there a race in Macedonia that knows no greek? Please enlighten us.

the current Slav inhabitants of Skopje have nothing to do with Alexanders people. Its like asking a TC who have only been on the island since 1570 how come they do not speak any Greek when the island's been Greek since BC.

Do the TC's currently in Famagusta speak the language of King Evagoras who ruled Salamis and made it into one of the most successful and democratic Greek city states at the time? No.

[Hatter]

I gave up smoking 25 years ago. TFFT.
Can you explain for us simpletons why it is that an educated Macedonian does not understand Greek if Simon is correct. Is there a race in Macedonia that knows no greek? Please enlighten us.

the current Slav inhabitants of Skopje have nothing to do with Alexanders people. Its like asking a TC who have only been on the island since 1570 how come they do not speak any Greek when the island's been Greek since BC.

Do the TC's currently in Famagusta speak the language of King Evagoras who ruled Salamis and made it into one of the most successful and democratic Greek city states at the time? No.

DT has saved me the trouble explaining why an educated "Macedonian" does not know greek. Another way of asking the question is "why does someone who calls herself macedonian not know any greek". IF "macedonian" in this case means a slav from the FYROM, then it is no wonder that she does not know greek. But then again, the Slavs of FYROM have nothing to do with Alexander, Philip, the real Macedonia, historically, culturally or linguistically - oh, wait a minute, there is, possibly a connection: their wishful thinking in terms of territory, credibility, distortions of history, aided and abetted by wonderful human beings like Soros.

[Hatter]

Get Real wrote:

Alexander was born in a Kingdom that had no relation to Greece

If that is so, why was King Philip given a Greek name?
Why was his mother, Olympias, given a Greek name? (She was originally from Epirus, another northern Greek kingdom).
Why was Alexander given a Greek name?
Why did King Philip believe he descended from Heracles, a mythical Greek hero?
Why did Olympias believe she descended from Achilles, another mythical Greek hero?
Why was Alexander taught by Aristotle, a Greek thinker?
Why does almost every leading expert in this field regard Alexander as Greek?
Why did Alexander spread Greek culture and language, rather than that of his home, Macedonia?
Why did the Macedonian Royal Family, known as the Argead dynasty, claim Greek descent from Argos in the Peloponnese?
Why was his Father, King Philip, amongst many other Macedonians, allowed to participate in the Olympic games, when only Greeks were allowed to participate?

Macedonians, who participated in the Olympics at Olympia, were as follows:

• King Alexander I, in the 80th Olympics, in 460 BCE. He run the “Stadion” and was placed very close second.

• King Arhelaos Perdikas, competed in the 93rd Olympics, in 408 BCE and won at Delphi the race of the four-horse chariot.

• King Philip II was an Olympic champion three times. In the 106th Olympics, in 356 BCE, he won the race, riding his horse. In the 107th Olympics, in 352 BCE, he won the four-horse chariot race. In the 108th Olympics, in 348 BCE, he was the winner of the two colt chariot.

• Cliton run the Stadion in the 113rd Olympics, in 328 BCE.

• Damasias from Amphipolis won in the Stadion in the 115th Olympics, in 320 BCE.

• Lampos from Philippi, was proclaimed a winner in the four-horse chariot race in the 119th Olympics, in 304 BCE.

• Antigonos won in the Stadion race, in the 122nd Olympics, in 292 BCE and in the 123rd Olympics in 288 BCE.

• Seleucos won in the field-sports competition in the 128th Olympics in 268 BCE.

• During the 128th Olympics, in 268 BCE and in the 129th Olympics, in 264 BCE, a woman from Macedonia won the competition. Pausanias mentions that: “…it is said that the race of the two-colt chariot was won by a woman, named Velestihi from the seashores of Macedonia”.

Moreover:

Macedonians had the same language, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same religion, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same architecture, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians served the same arts, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians used the same names, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same traditions, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same myths, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same heroes, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same rituals, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians had the same customs, as all other Greeks

• Macedonians were Greeks.

Reminds me of Hitler the Austrian, somehow. A quirk of history.

I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.

Deniz, I don't believe you. Simon just spent so much time writing this post and you knock it for six just with one fact.
You should be ashamed of yourself. Give the man a chance, he will get to the truth eventually.

Deniz, I wouldn't set too much store by YFred's comment on this one. YF's comment is just as arbitrary as your response. Simon presented you with a strong, rational evidence and a reasoned response, and all you could say is "it reminds me of such and such", conveniently ignoring Simon's irrefutable post, and then pathetically attempting to divert attention by trotting out this "neighbour" of yours. Does your response come out of some manual, perhaps the chapter on what to do when any reasoned response is impossible?

YF, at least Simon bothered to present the facts, unlike your pathetic attempt to dismiss his effort. Good try, YF, but no cigar!

Good post, Simon!

No need to get defensive 'Mad' Hatter. I stated above that I had not researched the subject. Its an observation. I did not rubbish anyones claim so get off yor high horse. I am more broad minded than you perceive me.

But since you are now involved as well, why ot accept that there is a possibility that Alex may have been adopted by the Greek world and subsequent writers may have glorified Alex's imaginary Greekness. Its all possible.

Have a good day.

NB. Please note how much of Simons 'evidence' includes Greek Mythology'.

Sorry Deniz, I missed your comment before about not having researched the subject. Glad to note you were not rubbishing anyone's post, and any connotations by referring to Hitler were "just an observation". As for the possibility that "Alex may have just been adopted by the Greek world ..." etc, no I do not accept such possibility, because it is untrue - just read Simon'spost again. It is an interesting spin that is implied by asking us to accept such possibilty, but that could be the subject of another thread.

Regarding your NB: regardless of the elements in Simon's post that refer to Greek mythology, just see how much his post refers to historical facts. I am sure your broadmindedness will enable you to do that.

thank you for your wishes for a good day, I wish you a good day too.

[Simon]

den wrote:

[quote]I must look into the modern Macedonian language. My Macedonian neighbour Zoe claims Greek is unintelligible to her. She is a graduate, and no idiot. I know Zoe is a Greek name.[/quote]

When you say the modern Macedonian language, what are you referring to? The language of the FYROM? Because they had nothing to do with the ancient Macedonians and they don't speak Greek today. They speak a language similar to Bulgarian. I provide a wealth of evidence and you can only pick on a small part of my post. What about the rest? What I am saying is when you take all this evidence that I provided together, it is clear the Macedonians were Greek (at least culturally). Today, Greek names, and variations of them are used worldwide, this was not the case when King Philip was born.

By posting what you guys have (deniz and Y-Fred) you have shown you know nothing about the subject, so it is best you stay out of it. I referred to "Greek Mythology" Deniz because it shows the culture of the Macedonians at the time. And it wasn't mythology to them back then!