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[insan]

A question I've been wanting to ask, how many (roughly) Greek troops are there stationed in Cyprus today (ELDYK)? Still 950? Or are there more due to the Turkish occupation?

950. There might be 10 or so more officers in the National Guard including the Chief.

It seems ur sources regarding number of Greek troops is the official GC propaganda machine.

The present security architecture in Cyprus is composed of several separate commands: the Turkish Army Corps (33,000) and a small Turkish Cypriot Security Force in the north, and the Greek Cypriot National Guard (14,000 active duty plus a large reserve) and a Greek Brigade (4,000) in the south. They are continually on guard duty, facing each other along the cease-fire lines of 1974, now usually referred to as the "Green Line." Patrolling the Green Line are the 1,300 soldiers who make up UNFICYP. Finally, the British deploy about 3,500 soldiers and airmen in two sovereign base areas in the south.

Cyprus and the Military Component of Diplomacy
Author: By Col. Stephen R. Norton USA, Ret. Senior Policy Advisor

http://www.wilsoncenter.org/index.cfm?t ... _id=115869

[insan]

I want to expand a little on a couple of issues raised by Apostolos and Hermes in comments they left in these two Hellenic Antidote posts.

First, Hermes draws attention to this article (in Greek) on encouragement being given by the UK Labour MP Andrew Dismore to the creation of a bogus Cypriot national identity that would deliberately seek to marginalise if not eliminate Cyprus' and Cypriots' Greekness. Dismore is vice-chairman of the so-called Friends of Cyprus group, which consists mostly of UK parliamentarians but also counts journalists and academics as its members, and whose positions on the Turkish occupation are generally regarded as sympathetic to the Greek side.

In relation to Dismore and his support for a Cypriot national identity, it’s worth making the following points:

1. The Friends of Cyprus flatters to deceive, i.e. it pretends it is a caucus representing Greek Cypriot interests to the UK government, but its real role is the opposite: to convince Greek Cypriots of UK positions.

The nature of those involved with the Friends of Cyprus is revealed if we consider the career of Stephen Twigg, formerly Labour MP for Enfield, a marginal constituency in North London with a large Greek Cypriot population. As an MP, Twigg was an outspoken supporter
 of Cyprus; but when he lost his seat in 2005 he became director of the Foreign Policy Centre, a Blairite think tank, whose most high-profile intervention so far has been its ‘Turkey belongs in Europe’ campaign, which strongly advocates Turkey’s membership of the EU. Indeed, when the FPC launched its Turkey in Europe pamphlet last year, Twigg did the rounds of TV news studios and so on strongly promoting Turkey and its EU bid. From supporter of Cyprus to cheerleader for Turkey. So much for the Friends of Cyprus.

2. Since landing on Cyprus in 1878, the British strategy has been to dehellenise the island in order to control it better. The English wanted to create another Malta and a population that looked towards London, not Athens.

read the rest here:
http://hellenicantidote.blogspot.com/

I ask the House to believe, not me but Sir Ronald Storrs, a former Governor, who said in 1931: The Greekness of the Cypriot is indisputable. No sensible person would deny that the Cypriot is Greek-speaking, Greek-thinking and Greek-feeling. I am sure that our position in Cyprus today would have been quite different if from the start we had accepted this, and had encouraged the pride of the people in their share of Hellenic culture. We, in this country, have a distinguished Greek tradition ourselves, in Greek scholarship and phil-Hellenism. We could have staffed the administration of Cyprus with 1916 phil-Hellenes, endowed the archaeological expeditions with generosity and acknowledged our common debt to the civilisation of Greece.

From that sort of approach perhaps we might have worked out a French Canada or Channel Islands compromise, but I feel rather strongly that the opportunity for that may now have gone.

§ Mr. Bernard Braine (Billericay) Is the hon. Lady arguing that there is a suppression of Greek culture in Cyprus? If so, would she give illustrations?

Read the rest here:
http://hansard.millbanksystems.com/comm ... /05/cyprus

[yialousa1971]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

[DT.]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

[bigOz]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

...and I wonder what source our learned friend(?) yialousa ıs relying on, for his historic claims. Perhaps he would like to enlighten us on the subject.

[yialousa1971]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

What by you? I don't need the UN to tell me that Cyprus is a Greek Island.

[DT.]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

What by you? I don't need the UN to tell me that Cyprus is a Greek Island.

You should be so lucky. Most probably by a TC after you accusse Turkey of ignoring UN resolutions.

[yialousa1971]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

What by you? I don't need the UN to tell me that Cyprus is a Greek Island.

You should be so lucky. Most probably by a TC after you accusse Turkey of ignoring UN resolutions.

Why would I be so lucky? Since when did the UN become the keepers of history.

[DT.]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

What by you? I don't need the UN to tell me that Cyprus is a Greek Island.

You should be so lucky. Most probably by a TC after you accusse Turkey of ignoring UN resolutions.

Why would I be so lucky?

i really need to spell it out for you don't I? Because if its me I might hold back and not hit you on the head with your obvious contradictions. Cyprus is an independent state, deal with it.

[yialousa1971]

...because idiots like will only prolong the Cyprus problem to eternity.

Me prolong it? It's your Greece we're waiting for to liberate us so what are you waiting for Christmas? Didn’t you say “Freedom or death”???

So you’ve been LYING to Cypriots all along your dirty mythological wanker!

Cyprus is Greek GR don't forget it! Try and prove that it isn't, you can't your website proves nothing and you didn't listern to anything I posted about it.

An illiterate peasant’s graffiti on the wall from the1950s is not what the UN
uses to distinguish one country from another.

The UN is your source for history now?

Feel free to rip the UN to pieces, but next time you quote a UN resolution this post will be shoved in your face.

What by you? I don't need the UN to tell me that Cyprus is a Greek Island.

You should be so lucky. Most probably by a TC after you accusse Turkey of ignoring UN resolutions.

Why would I be so lucky?

i really need to spell it out for you don't I? Because if its me I might hold
back and not hit you on the head with your obvious contradictions. Cyprus is an independent state, deal with it.

What you need to do is read what I posted. Now let me explain what I again: Cyprus is a Greek Island, I did not say it was part of Greece (although I wish it was). I don't care for the UN, they are a waste space. Feel free to pull me up on anything I post, UN or what ever.