DT wrote:
I don't think Utu is TC actully. You seem to be stuck on all this admittion of crimes. The GC side can admit, confess and repent for everything those gangs of fanatics committed in the 60's. A situation so dark and badly recorded that sometimes you feel that this period happened in another country and not our own. And yet, we admit to these crimes and take our fair share of what these individuals had done. Careful now, this is the important bit the fact that we admit that these crimes happened and share our shame with the world depsite the fact that they never happened in the name or desire of 95% of the population of the Cypriots.
Yet we grudgingly admit to these killings and murders een though we were never taught them. Personally I still find fault of the TC's with a well orchestrated withdrawal from govt that gave our fanatics the perfect signal to carry out their share of horrors. But I could never ever understand the maniacs that committed the crimes that they did against TC civilians. Our biggest mistake as a community was not ignoring both Makarios and Clerides whe they pardoned these bastards and hunt them down ourselves. We should have hung them in ELeftheria Sq for the whole world to see.
The same can be said by the TC's with the activities of the TMT. The ordinary TC never gave a carte blanche to these officers from Turkey who were kidnapping and slaugthering GC's either. This one however gets notched down as self defense. How the hell we've reached a stage where slaughtering and heinous crimes against humanity are excused as self defense is beyond me. (by both sides!!)
The 3rd one is the invasion. This is the Big one for me and the one that baffles me the most. Grown men, educated and with families have sat on their PC's and told the forum that the invasion was a peace intervention to save the GC's and the TC's. They told us how no GC civilians were killed during this even though most of us have family that died in 74. They told us they would never have fired had the GC's not fired back and kept a straight face while those of us who remembered the F5's dropping bombs on the villages read with disbelief. They told us that all our missing where killed by the coup when everyday more and more brave TC's are confessing what their entire village knows, that the well on the mountain contains something more than water. Excuses, more excuses and more excuses....and then I sit and wonder. WHat make s a grown man lie like this in someone else's face when that someone else has obviosuly been affected so much by this?
FOr the life of me the only reason I can find is that its the fear of having your words used against you on a later argument. So we sit here and sell our souls to our own propaganda machine for a lousy argument.
Sorry if I dragged on.
Thank you for this response DT. I believe it provides the basis for some serious debate, despite the fact that you started aggressively (just like APOEL). I am referring to the point you made about me being stuck on an issue which probably you find not worth considering. I think that a good start will be made if all of us recognise our crimes, assume responsibilities for them and ask for forgiveness. It will be a good start, especially if we are interested to find a common language that will enable us to move on. It is a simple case of burying the skeletons. Anyway, lets move on to more important aspects of the events that led to the Cyprus tragedy.
You write about gangs of fanatics that represented only 5% of our community which was responsible for committing crimes. (Piratis recognises that crimes were committed only by EOKA B, despite the fact that EOKA B was not around in the early 60`s). I cannot agree with your thesis. In our community, paramilitary organisations were set up and funded by the government, under the leadership of Makarios. They were led by blood-thirsty warlords of the kind of Lyssarides, Yiorgadjis and Sampson. Their sole aim was to prevent a reaction by the Turkish Cypriots to the proposals of Makarios for changes to the constitution and to ensure that these changes would take effect regardless of the desires of the Turkish Cypriot community. What Makarios did was unconstitutional and it violated our signatures that were placed on the agreements only 3 years before. Enosis was the predominant issue in the Greek Cypriot community at the time and it is no secret that we wanted to use the agreements as a stepping stone to achieve our age long desire of union with Greece. We still boast that 99% of the Greek Cypriot community voted for enosis only a few years prior. Denktash and other nationalist elements in the Turkish Cypriot community embarked on a course that would encourage the Greek Cypriot leadership to pursue a path that would lead to an armed conflict. Both sides were thus preparing for this eventuality.
Our side fell into the trap set by Denktash quite willingly because we underestimated the Turkish Cypriots and overrated our ability to contain a head to head conflict. Denktash succeeded in another way too, just as important, by convincing the majority of the Turkish Cypriots that their very existence was in danger. We in fact helped Denktash to gain the respect of the Turkish Cypriots when our warlords started killing innocent Turkish Cypriots and then making these killings appear as heroic acts against a barbaric enemy. Every Turkish Cypriot we killed then brought us one step closer to partition but foolishly we shouted hooray while Denktash rubbed his hands with delight too. Perhaps you are right DT and only 5% did the killings but the remaining 95% not only kept quite but unfortunately condoned the killings. You see, we were fighting a war at the time and we were blinded by the noble aim of this war which was to fulfil our national so called aspirations.
I will carry on later, time permitting.
So stop crying and keep pace with the globalization. 
