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[YFred]

You cannot compare the police force and jails of occupied Cyprus with anything else in the Western world. The criminals are running the show and the prisons are not fit for goats, let alone people. Police beatings are a daily and normal occurence.

It is so easy to blame someone else. Look in your own backyard before criticising others. RoC police does not cover itself in glory.

ask him about his father in law your swine...

I know about his Father in law, and I also know about a young lurucadi man who had the shit kicked out of him by RoC Police and Prison warders and got 10000 compensation for his trouble.

if you knew which I doubt, you would't be talking about it

His family are not the only ones that suffered. Both sides are as guilty as each other. Nothing annoys me more that when one tries to claim the higher ground. We are all in the same shit.

so you don't know shit...but in your usual pompous style, with ear on the ground you hear fart from 40 miles away...go figure

This is where you are wrong. Farts I never hear, but Bombs exploding a mile away from Lurucina during Nigoforoes or whatever you call it, loud and clear. Who are you trying to impress.

[CopperLine]

The general thrust of this article is spot on. Human rights abuses - whether of detainees, 'entertainers', migrant workers (including from Turkey) - and environmental harms, economic deprivations, social inequalities and so on that stain the lives of us in north Cyprus are ignored or unexamined by the rest of the world. Where other countries receive solidarity, support or inspection by a vast range of international organisations in order to, for example, improve the human rights conditions or provide protection for trafficked/enslaved women in the 'nightclubs', these are almost entirely absent in TRNC.

I'm sure that many will simply respond to this observation by saying TRNC should not be an illegal entity, separatist, partitionist or whatever. Fair enough. But the reality is that in the meantime - at least 35 years and counting - there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity. Recognition would allow for international organisations and international regulations to be enforced in northern Cyprus for the benefit of ordinary people.

The title of this post is 100% accurate 'political isolation hinders struggle against torture'.

PS. YFred, pointing out that abuses happen elsewhere is not an argument at all for discounting the abuses happening in northern Cyprus - in fact it is quite irrelevant.

[YFred]

The general thrust of this article is spot on. Human rights abuses - whether of detainees, 'entertainers', migrant workers (including from Turkey) - and environmental harms, economic deprivations, social inequalities and so on that stain the lives of us in north Cyprus are ignored or unexamined by the rest of the world. Where other countries receive solidarity, support or inspection by a vast range of international organisations in order to, for example, improve the human rights conditions or provide protection for trafficked/enslaved women in the 'nightclubs', these are almost entirely absent in TRNC.

I'm sure that many will simply respond to this observation by saying TRNC should not be an illegal entity, separatist, partitionist or whatever. Fair enough. But the reality is that in the meantime - at least 35 years and counting - there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity. Recognition would allow for international organisations and international regulations to be enforced in northern Cyprus for the benefit of ordinary people.

The title of this post is 100% accurate 'political isolation hinders struggle against torture'.

PS. YFred, pointing out that abuses happen elsewhere is not an argument at all for discounting the abuses happening in northern Cyprus - in fact it is quite irrelevant.

It is not irrelevant when it takes place in the Official RoC, surely. I never said I agreed with it in the north or anywhere else in the world.

[Get Real!]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

[YFred]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

But have you checked all the i's, have they got dots on them, and the t's have they been hellenised dear boy.

[CopperLine]

I think the harm is many-fold and plural, therefore harms.

[Oracle]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

What about "abuses" ... shouldn't that be "abuse"? No inflection necessary, methinks

[Get Real!]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

But have you checked all the i's, have they got dots on them, and the t's have they been hellenised dear boy.

What can I do? Unfortunately, my brain cannot process the remainder of a post if it stalls on an error… just like a compiler!

[YFred]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

But have you checked all the i's, have they got dots on them, and the t's have they been hellenised dear boy.

What can I do? Unfortunately, my brain cannot process the remainder of a post if it stalls on an error… just like a compiler!

So your secret is out. You can consider yourself as being outed. The only compilers I know are software. What are you called?
I have some error catching code in VBA if you are interested.

[Get Real!]

...there is a black hole in which abuses and harms occur with impunity.

Is that correct? Shouldn't that be "harm occurs"?

What about "abuses" ... shouldn't that be "abuse"? No inflection necessary, methinks

"Abuse" doesn't look so bad because the plural form definitely exists but "harms"???

I’ve got to look into this because it baffles my brain and I don't like it being baffled…