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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:29 am

insan wrote:Turkish Cypriots look to Ottoman archives in land bid
By Simon Bahceli

OTTOMAN archives compiled in Cyprus between the sixteenth century and British rule could provide the Turkish Cypriot side with ammunition to counter Greek Cypriot property claims in the north, it was claimed yesterday.

The revelations were made by the Turkish-language daily Star and were confirmed by an anonymous source close to the Turkish Cypriot authorities who told the Cyprus Mail, “A group of foreign experts have been working on a report [based on archival material]. Some of the findings will give strength to the Turkish Cypriot position on properties”.

Although the source did not confirm details, the Star’s article claimed some 100 experts had been combing Ottoman archives since 2005. The Ottomans ruled the island for over 300 years from 1571 until 1878. The experts, it said, had compiled a 250-volume report entitled ‘Cyprus Land and Property’. It also said the report’s findings would “come as a shock to those Greek Cypriots trying to extract money and land from north Cyprus” and that the shock would be delivered when Turkish Cypriot leader Mehmet Ali Talat unveiled the report at a news conference next week.
The Cyprus Mail was unable to confirm yesterday whether Talat would indeed be hosting such a media event. Rather, a source within the administration said it was yet undecided how or when the report would be used.

“No such political decision has been made,” the source said, adding that the report was seen as a “supportive element” in ongoing negotiations for a settlement with the Greek Cypriot side, rather than as evidence that would be used in court to justify Turkish Cypriot possession of Greek Cypriot properties in the north.

“Sometimes you have a document that you use only for political purposes. To put such things before a court, you first have to be sure there are no inconsistencies. If there are, these can weaken your argument,” it said.

The source added, however, that political factors could sometimes be used to influence a court decision – a factor especially true in Cyprus’ case.

Commenting on the prospect of Turkish Cypriot property lawyers and negotiators taking such a tack, Greek Cypriot lawyer Achilleas Demetriades told the Cyprus Mail that such an approach was known as the “Evkaf approach” and was not new. It had already been used by Turkish lawyers, he said, during a case at the European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) in which his Greek Cypriot client Myra Xenides-Arestis had sought to regain possession of her property from Turkey in the fenced-off area of Varosha, near Famagusta.

Evkaf is the umbrella organisation that oversees the running of all Turkish Cypriot religious foundations in Cyprus and is said to own vast amounts of land and property.

The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

The Greek Cypriot lawyer added, however, that if there was basis to the Evkaf argument, its claims “do not lie against the Greek Cypriot owners but perhaps against the colonial powers, namely the UK”.

Prior to gaining independence from Britain, Demetriades said, “Britian paid over one million pounds to the Turkish Cypriot community [their leaders] in full and final settlement of all claims that the Turkish Cypriot community may have had to [Vakif] properties”.

He added that a possible use of the archival information would be for Turkey to open an interstate case against the UK for having illegally disenfranchised the Turkish Cypriots of large amounts of public property.

“That would be a very interesting case to follow,” he said.







Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2009


From your post titty man...

The Cyprus Mail was unable to confirm yesterday whether Talat would indeed be hosting such a media event. Rather, a source within the administration said it was yet undecided how or when the report would be used

If they have evidence they would have been doing splits, handstands and sommersalts through a hopplah...but since not they are undecided speaks volumes... :lol:

“Sometimes you have a document that you use only for political purposes. To put such things before a court, you first have to be sure there are no inconsistencies. If there are, these can weaken your argument,” it said.

Kinda proves my point above regarding the hooplah, doesn't it titty man?... :lol:

The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

from the same article posted by you dismissed by the ECHR...but we have Donkeytashes word haven't we titty man?... :lol: ...and we all know how much weight this carries, don't we?...measured in miniscule weight... :lol: ... but enough to feed the little mushrooms hey titty man? ... :lol:

Furter more as your article says, take it up with the Brits...and if you do, they will show you the signed article by Dekatsh and co...

I can picture this as a whole lotta people in need of prozac...the capitalistic and globalistic markets better be ready for such an event as all these people would become suicidal, starting with bayarak boy and tiity man... :lol:

PS..now answer the 4 questions put to you previously and stop wasting everyones time with pseudo politics you hack... :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:33 am

Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


One begs the question if titty man actually reads and comprehends what the hell he is writing...

This article confirms what I have been saying all along... :lol:

YOK EVKAF...maybe titty man will undersatnd it in his naitive language...just to be safe...can someone post it in arabic script, just in case titty man and bayarak, are having trouble with modern turkish?... :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:43 am

Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

ECHR dismissed only one claim and that is:

2. Dismisses the remainder of the applicant’s claim for just satisfaction. :lol:

http://www.lawyercyprus.com/News/XENIDES_ARESTIS.pdf

Evkaf approach is still an ongoing process. :D Prepare yourself for the shockwave :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:47 am

boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


One begs the question if titty man actually reads and comprehends what the hell he is writing...

This article confirms what I have been saying all along... :lol:

YOK EVKAF...maybe titty man will undersatnd it in his naitive language...just to be safe...can someone post it in arabic script, just in case titty man and bayarak, are having trouble with modern turkish?... :lol:


U Boomy Bummy Dumbazzy man. How illiterat u r! Where did u learn English? In Greece? :lol: It is understood that there's no limit of your illiteracy. :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:49 am

insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

ECHR dismissed only one claim and that is:

2. Dismisses the remainder of the applicant’s claim for just satisfaction. :lol:

http://www.lawyercyprus.com/News/XENIDES_ARESTIS.pdf

Evkaf approach is still an ongoing process. :D Prepare yourself for the shockwave :lol:


hey titty man how stupid can you get?...

here we go again from your post...

Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

She still retains ownership of her property...this was not a ruling if she was the original owner or not...the court accepted she owns her property outright...coz if she didn't she would get jack shit...like the what the orams will get...aggouri up the ass...get it titty man?... :lol:

man how think can anyone get...
please do yourself a favour and not answer this one titty man... :lol:
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:53 am

insan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


One begs the question if titty man actually reads and comprehends what the hell he is writing...

This article confirms what I have been saying all along... :lol:

YOK EVKAF...maybe titty man will undersatnd it in his naitive language...just to be safe...can someone post it in arabic script, just in case titty man and bayarak, are having trouble with modern turkish?... :lol:


U Boomy Bummy Dumbazzy man. How illiterat u r! Where did u learn English? In Greece? :lol: It is understood that there's no limit of your illiteracy. :lol:


ok...anyone will arabic script skills out there?...coz it seems titty man's command of the english and modern turkish languages are far from limited...I would even go as far as say non existent... :lol:

YOK=NO

When combined with
YOK EVKAF=means you got fuck all chances... :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:55 am

boomerang wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

ECHR dismissed only one claim and that is:

2. Dismisses the remainder of the applicant’s claim for just satisfaction. :lol:

http://www.lawyercyprus.com/News/XENIDES_ARESTIS.pdf

Evkaf approach is still an ongoing process. :D Prepare yourself for the shockwave :lol:


hey titty man how stupid can you get?...

here we go again from your post...

Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

She still retains ownership of her property...this was not a ruling if she was the original owner or not...the court accepted she owns her property outright...coz if she didn't she would get jack shit...like the what the orams will get...aggouri up the ass...get it titty man?... :lol:

man how think can anyone get...
please do yourself a favour and not answer this one titty man... :lol:



Let me translate it for u:Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property built on Evkaf land. :lol:

U illiterate Boomy Bummy Dumbazzy man. :lol: R u preparing yourself the shockwave of Evkaf approach? A group of foreign experts have been working on a report. Some of the findings will give great strength to the Turkish Cypriot position on properties. :D
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Postby boomerang » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:13 am

insan wrote:
boomerang wrote:
insan wrote:
Get Real! wrote:The Evkaf approach, however, “was dismissed by the court,” Demetriades said. Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

:lol:


Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

ECHR dismissed only one claim and that is:

2. Dismisses the remainder of the applicant’s claim for just satisfaction. :lol:

http://www.lawyercyprus.com/News/XENIDES_ARESTIS.pdf

Evkaf approach is still an ongoing process. :D Prepare yourself for the shockwave :lol:


hey titty man how stupid can you get?...

here we go again from your post...

Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property.

She still retains ownership of her property...this was not a ruling if she was the original owner or not...the court accepted she owns her property outright...coz if she didn't she would get jack shit...like the what the orams will get...aggouri up the ass...get it titty man?... :lol:

man how think can anyone get...
please do yourself a favour and not answer this one titty man... :lol:



Let me translate it for u:Turkey was ordered to pay Arestis €850,000 in compensation for denying her access to her property built on Evkaf land. :lol:

U illiterate Boomy Bummy Dumbazzy man. :lol: R u preparing yourself the shockwave of Evkaf approach? A group of foreign experts have been working on a report. Some of the findings will give great strength to the Turkish Cypriot position on properties. :D


titty man...her property could have been built on a mars and the ottoboys could claim that as well... :lol:

End of the day these are the facts...
1...she is still the owner of the land and not some pasha...
2...and to prove this point Turkey was ordered to pay her compensation while she still retains ownership...
Can you dispute the above facts?

Judging by your writing style, I see you are still having troubles using fingers titty man...

I will even go furter and and say the reason evolutionism is banned in Turkey is because still today there are a few that roam around using thumbs rather than fingers... :lol: ..."U" get "m" titty man.. :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:19 am

The land belongs to her in your dreams. :lol:
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Postby insan » Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:21 am

U better prepare yourself not to loose the land u r supposing to belongs u. :lol:
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